Comments on Who Hijacked Our Country: Republican Party: Stabbing Rightward

By then it'll be too late.

2005-05-04T13:02:00.000-07:00

By then it'll be too late.

I'll believe that the day I see James Dobson or Pa...

2005-05-04T11:55:00.000-07:00

I'll believe that the day I see James Dobson or Pat Robertson strap a vest pact full of explosives on them and storm the white house LOL

Greeneyed Lady: You make a good point about Democ...

2005-05-01T10:48:00.000-07:00

Greeneyed Lady: You make a good point about Democrats schmoozing in African American churches and taking their votes for granted.

But, "liberals keep bringing religion into politics"? When they do I think it's just a defensive reaction, so Republicans can't paint them into a corner as the "godless" party. Bill Frist's "Justice Sunday" last weekend was a disgrace; the most blatant use of religion as a badge that I've ever seen. When Democrats schmooze with religious groups, they don't go on nationwide TV and try to convince millions of people that "anyone who disagrees with us is going to burn in Hell." (That's not a direct quote, but that was the message.)

Obviously the Islamic terrorists are a bigger threat than Christian fanatics. I was all in favor of Bush invading Afghanistan and toppling the Taliban. Unfortunately, Iraq had nothing to do with terrorism or al Qaeda or bin Laden (they do now, after our invasion of their country).

I also think our democratic form of government is the only thing that protects us from people like James Dobson, Tony Perkins and Pat Robertson. The most fanatical Christian "leaders" have the exact same mindset as Khomeini or bin Laden -- different god, same hatred and thought processes. And Frist and DeLay are just fanning the flames when they try to suck up to these people. (Bush has tried to distance himself from the "Justice Sunday" types.)

Many many Democrats loved Reagan as well as Rebubl...

2005-05-01T07:30:00.000-07:00

Many many Democrats loved Reagan as well as Rebublicans.
I also note that its the liberals that keep bringing religion into politics. Are they threatened by a leader who has a certain faith? Does this mean we must silence him and his whole party and shove all his appointments down a hole citing "excessive personal beliefs". You should be more threatened my the excessive belief system that would like to purge the world of you and anyone who doesn't follow the Islamic radicalism. But you want to protect their beliefs or so the actions of the far left are working toward.
Im not into religon, but I haven't heard the president, nor did I hear Reagan preach a sermon or try to "save" anyone. They just do there job the best they can just like any other presidents. Its the democtatic presidents running for office that I see in church every sunday shmoozing with the african americans to sucker them for their vote. They have lots of "faith" then.

Erik: I just saw your previous 2 comments. Goldw...

2005-04-30T00:41:00.000-07:00

Erik: I just saw your previous 2 comments. Goldwater seemed almost saintly compared to the Religious Right. He was a Libertarian in some ways; wanted nothing to do with Christian theocrats. I think he even said once that a good conservative should kick Falwell's ass.

Moderate Republicans like Kasselbaum and Baker would look like treehuggers now, compared to how far to the right the party's moved. I always liked McCloskey; he was one of Nixon's severest critics during Watergate.

Well, Erik, it's all relative. I didn't like Reag...

2005-04-30T00:35:00.000-07:00

Well, Erik, it's all relative. I didn't like Reagan, but compared to Bush, Cheney, DeLay and Santorum he does seem like a kindly old man.

I am on a rollI see that the group has fallen unde...

2005-04-29T21:07:00.000-07:00

I am on a roll

I see that the group has fallen under the Reagan Spell, somehow believing that Ronald Reagan was this kindly old man who just believed in what it was doing - no matter how warped his ideas was.

Do you realize he was the Far Right Wingers favorite president, embracing the moral majority (bringing right wing religion into the party), hating civil rights (the segregationist loved him -see prior post), running the biggest defecits in History, Killing Environmental laws, supporting apartheid....Sound familiar? He was THE leader people - If he wasn't the seed for the modern party - who was?

The difference is he didn't scream and yell like the rest - that's why he was the "great communicater" and the "Teflon President".

Get over it this guy was dangerous

Erik

CALIFORNIA CONSERVATIVESGrowing up in California, ...

2005-04-29T20:59:00.000-07:00

CALIFORNIA CONSERVATIVES

Growing up in California, I voted for some republicans as they were the decendants of the reform anti-slavery party of one the most popular republicans in History EARL WARREN, a man so popular on the west coast he won in california on both republican and democratic tickets and received substantial write-in votes from the surrounding states.

Pete McClosky - a liberal republican from california writes how he, Don Edwards and Norm Minetta - Earl Warren republicans at the time attended the convention and were shocked by all the Southerners who had joined the party as a result of the Nixon Southern stratigy of getting the "Solid South" to go Republican if they don't adopt Civil Rights (did you know that Nixon promised the South he would appoint Supreme Court Judges to overturn Brown?)

The Leader of this group was ol Strom Thurmond who liked Nixon but LOVED Reagan, he convinced the Southernors to go with Nixon because he felt he was a winner.

Edwards and Minetta went Democrat and the Modern Republican Party began.

Erik

When I was a Kid, the Right Wing Conservative War ...

2005-04-29T20:49:00.000-07:00

When I was a Kid, the Right Wing Conservative War Mongering Bigoted Nut was ....Barry Goldwater. Later "Mr Conservative" Himself fell out with his own party for deserting what he felt were core conservative values.

If I though I hated Conservatives then...

Once in a while you do hear from "true Conservatives" that feel that these Nuts (most of them 1st and 2nd Generation Southern Segregationist who left the Demoncrats because they embraced Civil Rights) have lost of meaning of true Conservatism. Fiscal Responsiblity, Local Goverments (not just States rights), Legislating Morality, Smaller Goverment.

After Reagan some Moderates Such as Howard Baker and Nancy Kasslebaum formed a Moderate Group to bring back some of their core values (such as Fiscal Resonsibility). Of course they had to tred lightly and wait until after Reagen to organize (you can't criticize the great communicater) I see that fell by the way side.

Erik

Greeneyed Lady: True, there was a lot of mutual b...

2005-04-27T17:02:00.000-07:00

Greeneyed Lady: True, there was a lot of mutual bitterness after the 2000 election. But Bush ran as a moderate in that election, and after he won he instantly started rolling back environmental and worker-safety regulations, which nobody but the Far Right had objected to. And then Enron and the Iraqi invasion; it just seemed we had veered waaaay to the Right.

I think things changed in 2000, but not because of...

2005-04-27T15:33:00.000-07:00

I think things changed in 2000, but not because of just nutty Republicans. The election ordeal brewed a steeping pot of nutty political nonesense in general, seething with partisan biterness and blind truths.

Brother Kenya: That's pretty blatant. They defin...

2005-04-26T09:02:00.000-07:00

Brother Kenya: That's pretty blatant. They definitely are the party of the Religious Right, but I guess they've dropped all pretense of being moderate or for "The People." Either they're getting too complacent and will fall soon, or they know how powerful they are and they don't have to pretend any more.

OK Democrat: Thanks. I didn't agree with Reagan,...

2005-04-26T08:58:00.000-07:00

OK Democrat: Thanks. I didn't agree with Reagan, but I always thought he was well intentioned and didn't have any of the mean-spiritedness of Bush, Rove, DeLay, etc. And like you said, Reagan tried it and found out it wouldn't work. There's no way Bush could have thought giving massive tax cuts to millionaires would create jobs and stimulate the economy.

This definitely isn't the same Republican party; the right wing extremists are running the show. Hopefully not for too much longer.

I was amazed on Sunday when in one or two of the t...

2005-04-26T08:57:00.000-07:00

I was amazed on Sunday when in one or two of the talk shows pundits agreed that the Republicans are now essentially a religious party. Whoa! Talk about changing the political landscape...

Good research. I recently wrote a rather large pos...

2005-04-26T08:50:00.000-07:00

Good research. I recently wrote a rather large post on Ronald Reagan. He also considered the NeoCons the crazies in the basement and kept them there. He was of the old-school GOP, a Republican Party that cared about the U.S even if many of its ideals were flawed. When he tried his "trickle-down" economics theory, I believe he honestly thought it would work and was dissapointed that it didn't. Dubya KNEW it didn't work because of Reagan's failed attempts and yet, I suspect because of big payoffs to his Party and his personal fortune, he reinstated many tenets of Reagan's theory and now poverty is back up, wages are down, inflation is high and all around things suck for the consumers citizens again. Since about 1994, the crazies have broken out of the basement and haev been running the show in the GOP. Scary people. Scary movement.

Ken: Yeah, the Republican party has really mutate...

2005-04-25T19:19:00.000-07:00

Ken: Yeah, the Republican party has really mutated. I've never voted Republican, but it used to be just two moderate parties who could agree to disagree. Those days seem so idyllic now.

It's too bad that so many of the republicans in th...

2005-04-25T12:30:00.000-07:00

It's too bad that so many of the republicans in the tradition of Roosevelt, Eisenhower, and other rational leaders from the right are being overwhelmed, in name and spirit, by the zealot ideologues that now claim the mantle of Republican.
While not from the republican side of the fence myself I do enjoy rational debate with those who hold different views. With this bunch, there is no rational dialect...only hyperbole and distortion!
Thanks for the post.