I'd like to shake the hand of the person who came up with that mantra, it has so many followers I think the Billionaires can put them on the street and they still wont get it!
The depressing part to me is...that's MY damned generation. Whaaaaa the fuck happened to the 60s and all that it promised? The demonstrations and dialog of the 60s made a flaming liberal out of me and I (and my friends) have held steadfast to it. I have no idea what turned these other people around. Greed?
Erik: Too many people are blindly following these GOP mantras, which is why we're in the predicament we're in right now.
jadedj: Good question; something I've wondered about a lot too. I guess a lot of yesterday's idealistic liberals are today's teabaggers and Foxsuckers. Go figure.
jadedj/Tom I have learned from the years that there were very few real liberals in those years. Aside from "Free Love", great drugs, and killer music. Most of my "Liberal" friends became conservative as soon as they found out they didn't have to go to Vietnam. They have been supporting the liberal/radical's effort to stop the war because they didn't want their own sorry asses to go. As soon as the war was over, they cut their hair, heeded the call to Ronald Reagan, and came out of the closet as the Conservatives they really were.
Guys who tried every trick in the book to dodge the draft 30 years later had the nerve to call Clinton a draft dodger.
In talking to them you wouldn't think these are the same people you marched with back in the day.
PS A lot decided it was OK to be racist too, after Reagan came out against Civil Rights.
Erik: To an extent, I suppose a lot of the hippie/liberal/anti-war slogans and attitudes were more trendy than based on gut convictions (or based on self preservation in the case of being anti-war). It's hard to generalize; I'm sure there are countless examples of lifelong liberals, and people who were only using liberal slogans to rationalize staying out of Vietnam.
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That's about the size of it.
Karlo: Yup, multiply this guy by several million and Presto -- Congress and most state legislatures are dominated by Republicans.
I'd like to shake the hand of the person who came up with that mantra, it has so many followers I think the Billionaires can put them on the street and they still wont get it!
Erik
The depressing part to me is...that's MY damned generation. Whaaaaa the fuck happened to the 60s and all that it promised? The demonstrations and dialog of the 60s made a flaming liberal out of me and I (and my friends) have held steadfast to it. I have no idea what turned these other people around. Greed?
Erik: Too many people are blindly following these GOP mantras, which is why we're in the predicament we're in right now.
jadedj: Good question; something I've wondered about a lot too. I guess a lot of yesterday's idealistic liberals are today's teabaggers and Foxsuckers. Go figure.
jadedj/Tom I have learned from the years that there were very few real liberals in those years. Aside from "Free Love", great drugs, and killer music. Most of my "Liberal" friends became conservative as soon as they found out they didn't have to go to Vietnam. They have been supporting the liberal/radical's effort to stop the war because they didn't want their own sorry asses to go. As soon as the war was over, they cut their hair, heeded the call to Ronald Reagan, and came out of the closet as the Conservatives they really were.
Guys who tried every trick in the book to dodge the draft 30 years later had the nerve to call Clinton a draft dodger.
In talking to them you wouldn't think these are the same people you marched with back in the day.
PS A lot decided it was OK to be racist too, after Reagan came out against Civil Rights.
Erik
Erik: To an extent, I suppose a lot of the hippie/liberal/anti-war slogans and attitudes were more trendy than based on gut convictions (or based on self preservation in the case of being anti-war). It's hard to generalize; I'm sure there are countless examples of lifelong liberals, and people who were only using liberal slogans to rationalize staying out of Vietnam.
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