Who Hijacked Our Country

Saturday, August 25, 2007

The Case For Torture

The prisoner spent 97 days confined in the same American military prison that once held Saddam Hussein. He was bombarded with ear-splitting “head-banging” music day in and day out, and his interrogators kept shouting the same questions to him over and over. He and his assistant were also subject to physical treatment “reserved for terrorists and so-called enemy combatants.”

Sometimes these extreme methods are necessary. Sometimes you’ve just gotta do what you gotta do. Decent righteous Americans should constantly be asking themselves: “What Would Jack Bauer Do.”

The above-mentioned prisoners didn’t fly an airliner into the World Trade Center, but it’s almost as bad. They squealed on some of the sleazy merchants making illegal arms sales in Iraq. What kind of latte-sipping treehugger would do a thing like that?? Without massive corruption, sleazoid contractors and illegal arms sales, Iraqmire wouldn’t be what it is today. What the hell are these troublemakers complaining about?

Donald Vance and Nathan Ertel went to the FBI to report illegal sales of guns, land mines and rocket launchers — no receipts necessary. These weapons were sold to State Department employees, Iraqi government workers, Iraqi insurgents — whoever; it didn’t matter. The seller was Donald Vance’s employer, Shield Group Security Co. Vance said “It was a Wal-Mart for guns. It was all illegal and everyone knew it.”

Vance didn’t think he could trust anyone in Iraq so he went to an FBI agent in Chicago and supplied him with photos and documentation. And look at what he got for his trouble.

William Weaver, senior advisor to the National Security Whistleblowers Coalition, said: “Reconstruction is so rife with corruption. Sometimes people ask me, ‘Should I do this?’ And my answer is no. If they’re married, they’ll lose their family. They will lose their jobs. They will lose everything…If you do it, you will be destroyed.”

Beth Daley of the Project on Government Oversight, said: “The only way we can find out what is going on is for someone to come forward and let us know. But when they do, the weight of the government comes down on them. The message is, ’Don’t blow the whistle or we’ll make your life hell.’ It’s heartbreaking. There is an even greater need for whistleblowers now. But they are made into public martyrs. It’s a disgrace. Their lives get ruined.”

So there you have it. There's a lot of slippery illegal activity going on in Iraq, paid for with your tax dollars. But you'll keep your F#!$&#!## mouth shut if you know what's good for you.

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Blogger Lydia Cornell said...

OH my God, are you saying two Americans were thrown into an Iraqi prison for being whistleblowers?

This is unconscionable.

Where is the link to original article, I'd like to post this with a link to your blog, or expand on this story,
thank you Tom

August 25, 2007 at 4:40 PM  
Blogger Tom Harper said...

Lydia: Thanks for stopping by.

Here is where I got the story. Pretty appalling, huh?

August 25, 2007 at 5:08 PM  
Blogger LET'S TALK said...

This is called justice? The troops are under a demanding amount of pressure and it's about time they all came home when a Prison is cell is occupied by troops in the same place where Saddam was held, Camp Cropper.
Now what's wrong here?

August 25, 2007 at 5:27 PM  
Blogger Suzie-Q (S-Q) said...

Wow! That's an incredible story Tom!

August 25, 2007 at 7:43 PM  
Blogger Larry said...

No wonder the war is costing a Trillion dollars and growing.

And Bush claims the Iraqi's are helping rat on terroism, they are too scared to rat on corruption.

August 25, 2007 at 7:52 PM  
Blogger Tom Harper said...

Let's Talk: Yup, Camp Cropper. That's where they put Saddam Hussein, American whistleblowers and anybody else who gets in the way of the Bush Administration.

Suzie-Q(S-Q): Yup, that's incredible all right.

Larry: Yeah, it costs a lot of money to keep whistleblowers incarcerated. I guess our government has its priorities.

August 25, 2007 at 8:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is completely disgusting, but sadly not completely surprising. There doesn't seem to be any low that is too low for the Bush administration.

No wonder corruption is rife in every government agency.


August 25, 2007 at 8:38 PM  
Blogger Mike V. said...

Jeebus, it's almost unbelievable.
Until you look at the calendar and realize that we're still in Bushieland and the Dems are still doing nothing.

August 25, 2007 at 9:51 PM  
Blogger Tom Harper said...

Cat: Like you said, disgusting but not surprising. Hope you're enjoying the lowest and most corrupt administration in our history. May it end soon.

Mike: And speaking of the calendar, September 11th is approaching again. I think that's the day the Bush Administration is going to unveil their "report" showing that "the Surge is working!" And the scariest part is, millions of gullible Americans will lap it up.

August 26, 2007 at 12:02 AM  
Blogger LET'S TALK said...

Hi tom, check your last comment and thought I would refer you to Think Progress.

August 26, 2007 at 2:38 AM  
Blogger Candace said...

Oh this is just amazing. Damn them - every time I think I've heard it ALL when it comes to sleaze connected with this war and this administration, I find out I'm wrong - there's always something worse. You know it's bad when even the senior adviser to the Whistleblowers says, "Don't do it!"

August 26, 2007 at 11:05 AM  
Blogger Tom Harper said...

Let's Talk: Thanks for the link. Undoubtedly they'll wring everything they can out of 9/11. For the speech there'll probably be a visual backdrop of the World Trade Center falling. The soundtrack will be the Mormon Tabernacle Choir belting out God Bless America. And millions of gullible people will fall for it.

Candace: Yup, that's exactly it. Every time you think they've hit rock bottom, they sink lower.

August 26, 2007 at 11:27 AM  
Blogger PoliShifter said...

I've been reading about this story and it's appaling.

Hopefully somone in the MSM will pick up on it...60 minutes, Olberman, someone..

August 26, 2007 at 3:36 PM  
Blogger Tom Harper said...

PoliShifter: Surprisingly, MSNBC was where I picked this story up. They sometimes carry news that you wouldn't expect the MSM to carry, but the link often expires quickly. I've lost count of how many times I've bookmarked an MSNBC story, and when I go back to do a post on it, all you get is PAGE NOT FOUND at the top of the screen. That's probably what will happen soon with this story.

But once in awhile the MSM actually covers stories like this; probably so they'll have a few tokens to point to when they get criticized for not covering any real news.

August 26, 2007 at 4:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont wrote the Whistle blower law. It turned out to be full of loopholes and hard to enforce. He was going to revise it then the GOP took over and guess what- they took a machine gun and shot so many holes on it Leahy didn't recognize it anymore.

I never understood a society that vilifies such people who risk all by coming forward? labeled as snitches and accused of using the whistle blower law for gain (according to the law you are supposed to get a cut of the fraud).

I can't just blame the conservatives on this one, it seems we have a society that hates tattletales.


August 27, 2007 at 2:46 AM  
Blogger Lizzy said...

This is unfathomable. I don't even know what to say anymore. It's too much.

August 27, 2007 at 8:44 AM  
Blogger Tom Harper said...

Erik: I guess there can be a thin line between squealing and whistleblowing, but this case seems pretty clear cut. These whistleblowers are risking everything to come forward and expose massive corruption. History will judge them as heroes; it's too bad they have to be vilified and prosecuted in the meantime.

Lizzy: Yup, "unfathomable" is a good description.

August 27, 2007 at 11:27 AM  
Blogger Praguetwin said...

This is what we expect to see as a logical follow-on to the suspension of basic rights for people. As soon as it becomes okay to do this to an "enemy combatant" soon it becomes anyone who gets in the government's way.

How long until it is you and me?

August 27, 2007 at 2:15 PM  
Blogger FunkyTown Fighter said...

I am soooo sick to my stomach after reading this it's unreal. The lengths this administration and it's cult-like followers will go to is incredible!!!! I can only say I hope they all rot in HELL and SOON!!! Sorry BASTARDS that they are!

August 27, 2007 at 2:58 PM  
Blogger Tom Harper said...

Prague Twin: Yup, first it was enemy combatants, then whistleblowers. Next will be any blogger who insults the Bush Administration. Uh oh...

Funkytown Fighter: Yup, this is pretty bad. I've heard of whistleblowers getting fired and ostracized, but sent to a military prison to be "interrogated"? This is definitely a new low.

August 27, 2007 at 4:52 PM  

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