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Thursday, May 10, 2007

The Pope: “Life is Sacred Until You're Born”

The Pope is touring Latin America. Right now he's in Brazil, lecturing on the sanctity of life. Well, certain stages of life anyway. In a country plagued by poverty and overpopulation, his top priority is making sure every fetus gets to be born.

Once they’ve been born, a lot of Brazilian children live their entire lives on the street. They make good scapegoats for the country’s problems, and thousands of these children have been tortured and murdered by death squads and corrupt police departments.

Aren’t these murders just as horrifying as abortion? To express his moral outrage at the torture and murder of these street children, the Pope said…let’s see, what did he say…hmmm…it's gotta be in here somewhere...uuhhh...this might take awhile...

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Blogger LET'S TALK said...

The Pope and the British is trying to reunite, I cant believe he is looping as if there is nothing to lose on his views.

Latin America is an awful place for children and for the Pope to encourage and push birth is just the wrong place at the wrong time.

May 10, 2007 at 10:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Il Papa also opined on how the church should excommunicate all of the Mexican legislators who voted to legalize abortion in Mexico City. I'm sure that's going to go over well.

Way to shore up your diminishing numbers in Central/South-American Benedict.

May 10, 2007 at 12:27 PM  
Blogger Tom Harper said...

Let's Talk: It's just sick that all they care about is that every fetus gets born, and after that, who cares. The crime and poverty in Brazil are what should concern a truly religious person.

Kvatch: Yup, those evil Mexican legislators, who do they think they are? The Pope says to get back to the 4th century, right now.

May 10, 2007 at 1:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have never understood the Pope ex-communicating anyone who supports abortion and yet the Catholic Church is also against Capital Punishment and I yet to see any Catholic Politician ex-communicated for supporting the death penalty.

In the 70's when Jerry Brown was Governor of California, he announced he could not sign a death penalty bill because his Catholic belief would not let him. The Right Wing jumped all over him for putting religion in politics.



May 10, 2007 at 10:00 PM  
Blogger Tom Harper said...

Erik: Just goes to show you how inconsistent and schizophrenic the Right is about that "sanctity of life." They're even worse than most Catholics when it comes to thinking that fetuses are sacred but once you're born, Buh Bye. And religion enter into politics? Those people just can't make up their minds.

May 11, 2007 at 1:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A guy after Chimpy's own "heart."

Viva Jesusistan!

May 11, 2007 at 8:07 AM  
Blogger Tom Harper said...

Jolly Roger: Ah yes, Jesusistan. The Crusades are back and better than ever.

May 11, 2007 at 10:00 AM  
Blogger Kitchen Window Woman said...

Pregnancy has to do with sex and that is what the anti-abortion people are really about - sex and the control of all things sex. All human beings are sexual so it is easy to impose rules and guilt about sexuality as a method of control.

Once a child is born the anti-abortion types could care less. If they used even a tiny portion of the money they waste trying to regulate sexual practices to improve the lives of poor, abandoned children many more would thrive enough to have a chance in life and maybe even - hope.

The pope is a joke.

May 11, 2007 at 12:00 PM  
Blogger Snave said...

Wow... the Pope really believes he has a direct line to God. So does our president, and so do not only lots of our religious leaders, but our population as well! Scheise... How long before any of us who don't have a direct line to God get excommunicated, or worse?

May 11, 2007 at 1:06 PM  
Blogger Tom Harper said...

Kitchen Window Woman: You're absolutely right. Control is their main priority -- absolute power. They just dress it up with a bunch of bullshit slogans about "the sanctity of life," but they don't mean a word of it.

You're right, think of the positive things they could do with all the money and energy they spend trying to ban abortion and birth control.

Snave: I also have a direct line to God. What, you don't?

May 11, 2007 at 2:58 PM  
Blogger Damien said...

Yeah the Holy see does'nt really have its collective social heads screwed on when it comes to addressing real world needs, I'm totally at odds with not encouraging birth control and real family planning options.

May 11, 2007 at 6:41 PM  
Blogger Mile High Pixie said...

Hurrah for Kitchen Window Woman! She reminds me of a George Carlin bit: "These people aren't anti-abortion; they're anti-woman. If you're preborn, you're fine; if you're preschool, you're screwed."

May 11, 2007 at 7:10 PM  
Blogger PoliShifter said...

Life is sacred for the church as far as getting that next collection and that tithe.

All these years and people still haven't figured out that the reason why Church opposes birth control is because they want to increase their flock. The reasons are purely financial.

May 11, 2007 at 7:51 PM  
Blogger Lizzy said...

Maybe this isn't in the Pope's case, but I never understood how the majority of pro-lifers are also pro-death penalty. Isn't all life sacred to them? Um, guess not.

May 11, 2007 at 10:34 PM  
Blogger Tom Harper said...

Damien: Unfortunately, there isn’t much overlapping between real world needs and religious dogma. The Holy See has no idea of problems faced by real people.

Mile High Pixie: Yup, “anti-woman” pretty much describes them.

PoliShifter: That’s about the size of it. Birth control means fewer members of their sect to populate the word with.

Lizzy: I’m afraid the term “pro-life” has a pretty specific meaning for them. Deaths caused by war, crime, starvation — no biggie. They just worship fetuses.

May 12, 2007 at 1:28 AM  
Blogger Mike V. said...

I'll take the religious crazies more serious on the abortion debate as soon as the bulk of them start vehemently supporting birth control methods. Particularly the pill and condoms.

May 12, 2007 at 7:02 PM  
Blogger Tom Harper said...

Mike: Yup, it's unbelievable how these Bible types can't make the simple connection that every 12-year-old understands. More birth control = fewer unwanted pregnancies = fewer abortions. I guess that's just too complicated for a Fundie.

May 12, 2007 at 11:07 PM  
Blogger Snave said...

When it gets right down to itI think a lot of organized religion, particularly the fundamentalist variety, is about fear and mind control. I think KWW is right: sex and all things sexual are often natural things about which people tend to think often; what better way is there to control people than to associate those frequent sexual thoughts with fear and guilt?

Do men think about sex more often than women do, or do they feel guiltier about it? I think so when it comes to religion, because most of the religious leaders/mind-controllers are men.

The Pope is (always) male, and he and his church have obvious hang-ups about sex. Does the Pope think about what it would be like to have sex? Has he ever had sex? Does he ever masturbate? Am I going to hell because I just asked those questions?

If you control the peoples' minds, it's easier to control their pocketbooks. Once you control their pocketbooks, it's easier to fund your efforts to control the world. I think churches have far too much control over peoples' minds and pocketbooks, not just here in the U.S. or in the Middle East, but all around the world. Some people find comfort in being controlled in that manner, but when it comes to that, please count me out.

May 14, 2007 at 2:41 PM  
Blogger Candace said...

The Roman Catholic Church is the wealthiest institution this planet has ever seen, and it is strongest in the poorest countries with the least educated populace. Obviously, they didn't RTFM.

It's outrageous to keep trying to guilt people into having more and more babies they cannot feed, when "Holy Mother Church" is laden with gold enough to feed the world. And to call this man "Holy Father" is just sickening.

-former RC, recovered nicely, thank you, now a humanist/atheist.

May 14, 2007 at 4:42 PM  
Blogger Tom Harper said...

Snave: Yup, control (through fear and guilt) is the top priority of our "Christian" leaders. It's amazing how many tens of millions of people can be led around by their nose-rings just because a few shrewd snakeoil salesmen can push the fear and guilt buttons. And this is true for all organized religious hierarchies, not just Christianity.

Candace: I've heard that same thing, that the Roman Catholic Church has incredible wealth. And the Protestant hierarchies aren't exactly paupers either. It would be nice if they'd use some of that money for good instead of preaching at people and manipulating them.

Congratulations on your recovery. Humanism makes much more sense.

May 14, 2007 at 5:16 PM  

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