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Tuesday, July 26, 2005

Dick Cheney: “I Like Torture. Increase the Voltage!”

Congress is considering legislation — supported by ten Republicans so far — that will prevent our famous torture festivals from recurring at Gitmo and Abu Ghraib. John McCain wants to set uniform standards for interrogating all suspects detained by the Defense Department. Interrogation techniques would be limited to those listed in the Army field manual on interrogation.

McCain’s legislation would also require all foreign citizens held by the U.S. military to be registered with the International Committee of the Red Cross. This would prevent the popular technique of using “ghost prisoners” — moving torture victims from prison to prison to hide them from the Red Cross and other human rights investigators.

This issue is so crucial, Dick Cheney actually emerged from his secret hiding place to have an urgent meeting with three Republican members of the Senate Armed Services Committee. He had to warn them of the dangers of coddling terrorists.

A White House official announced that this law would undermine the president’s ability “to protect Americans effectively from terrorist attack.” (stops, reads it again…) OK, I guess what they mean is:

Scenario A — Al Qaeda ringleaders are arranging their next terrorist attack. But first, a quick peek at their latest intelligence from Gitmo and Abu Ghraib. “Hahahaha, those wimpy Americans don’t even know how to torture a shackled prisoner. They’re using that sissy Geneva Convention. Onward! Hit that skyscraper!”

Scenario B — Al Qaeda ringleaders are arranging their next terrorist attack. But first, a quick peek at their latest intelligence from Gitmo and Abu Ghraib. “Uh oh, inbred prison guards have got Habib tied up and he has electric wires wrapped around his genitals. He’s screaming at the top of his lungs. Cool! They’re just like us! We’re all brothers. Call off the attack!”

This was Cheney’s second meeting with wayward Republicans who keep materializing DickBush’s worst fear: a spine. More and more lawmakers are getting frustrated at Bush’s refusal to hold any high-ranking military officials accountable for the torture scandals.

In addition to McCain, Cheney also met with John Warner and Lindsay Graham. The three senators told Cheney that senior military officials are concerned that vague and conflicting orders from the White House have enabled these torture frenzies, and are making future scandals more likely.

John McCain spent part of the Viet Nam war in a Vietnamese prison camp. Presumably he’d have a more accurate perspective than Bush, Cheney and the other sheltered trust-funded chickenhawks who planned the Iraqi invasion.

How important is it for terrorist suspects (wingnuts and other slow readers: note the word suspects in this sentence) to be tortured? Bush has threatened to veto the entire $442 billion defense bill if this legislation is attached to it.

DickBush’s priority levels:

Having a clearly thought out plan for the Iraqi war: Very Low.

The ability to torture suspects, just like third world countries do: Extreme Top Priority.


Blogger zencomix said...

This type of thing boggles the mind. Wouldn't it be nice to saturate the Red State airwaves with commercials about this shit? Because you know it's not going to show up on the evening news...

July 26, 2005 at 1:55 PM  
Blogger Jake Porter said...

Good post, I think we need to realize they are suspects and many suspects have been innocent before and some of these people may not be guilty but we will never know because John Ashcroft and others will always lie and tell us they there going to blow up a dirty bomb in Chicago and then not comment or continue to lie after they were proved wrong.

July 26, 2005 at 5:31 PM  
Blogger Brother Kenya said...

Since it's clear that our leaders are sociopaths, it only stands to reason that they like torture. Doesn't matter to them that torture doesn't work. They think it's fun!

July 26, 2005 at 5:59 PM  
Blogger Unadulterated Underdog said...

I support this bill. I agree that terrorists should be treated harshly but only when we know they are terrorists. Simply being an insurgent or a captured POW doesn't make them a terrorist. It is war so war rules should apply. The fact that the WH is twisting it and saying that we are not safe if we don't torture those who want to kill us makes no sense. I support torturing terrorists but prisoners should be considered POWs until further connections are proven.

July 26, 2005 at 6:12 PM  
Anonymous Tom Harper said...

ZenComix: That would be nice, but unfortunately lots of red state TV and radio stations would probably refuse to run the commercials. It’s not supposed to be legal to do that, but they keep finding a way. I guess it’s up to all us lowly bloggers to keep spreading the word.

Jake: Yeah, we have to differentiate between terrorists and suspects. There was one estimate that 70% of the prisoners held by American soldiers in Iraq were not guilty of anything more than being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Some of the other prisoners have been common criminals but not involved with terrorism or the insurgency.

That famous photo of the shackled prisoner cowering in a corner with dogs snarling at him — he turned out to be a car thief. Not a nice guy, but we didn’t invade Iraq to round up car thieves.

Brother Kenya: You’re right, I think they just favor torture because it feels good (to them, not to the prisoners). They’ve got the Bad Guy all tied up and begging for mercy and they’re enjoying the shit out of it. And this means they aren’t any better than all the 3rd world tinpot dictators we’ve always looked down on.

OK Liberal: That’s exactly right. We have to differentiate between suspects and terrorists. I’m not sympathetic at all toward terrorists; we can throw the key away or break out the electrodes or whatever. But first they have to be convicted of being terrorists.

July 26, 2005 at 6:45 PM  
Anonymous JollyRoger said...

Frankly, I disagree.

Decide that only those accused of "tur" should be tortured, and steadily watch the expansion of the definition of the word "turrist."

Expect American Justice to treat you no better than it treats the worst scum among us. The Founders knew what they were doing when they set things up the way they did it-we have just seen glimpses of what sociopath nutjobs like El Shrubbo, Crooked Lip, and Der Rovesmarschall will do if allowed.

July 26, 2005 at 11:48 PM  
Anonymous Tom Harper said...

Jolly Roger: Hell, let's just torture all them turrists and libruls.

There's no limit to what Traitor Rove and BushDick will do. Sociopath is right.

July 26, 2005 at 11:53 PM  
Blogger Gun-Toting Liberal said...

Great post as usual, Tom. We must be wary of a Government who would steal fellow Citizen, Jose Padilla's freedom simply because they are paranoid. Yet, we must also be wary of the extremists such as Teddy Kennedy who bring shame upon the troops who are working their asses off to insure terrorists remain incarcerated. Somewhere in the middle lies the answer.

Blog ON....

July 27, 2005 at 1:10 AM  
Anonymous Tom Harper said...

Gun-Toting Liberal: We definitely need to be wary and keep an eye on Big Brother. Paranoia does strange things to people, and we have to keep that in check.

July 27, 2005 at 10:47 AM  
Anonymous JollyRoger said...

We cannot give the criminal scum in Washington the benefit of any doubt-given the extremism of Kennedy or the extremism of El Shrubbo, I don't have to say which one I find to be far more frightening.

They have betrayed the public trust repeatedly. They must not be allowed to conceal any of their despicable activities.

July 27, 2005 at 3:02 PM  
Blogger Snave said...

McCain annoys me for the way he supported Bush after the Bush campaign destroyed him in 2000, but I am glad he is brave enough to buck the GOP party line and influential enough to bring some Republicans along with him. My hope is that some kind of moderate GOP coalition will grow during the next few years to create a now-missing check/balance in the Senate.

I think the more Bush is seen as a lame duck, the less power he will have... and if McCain and friends get such a group going, the GOP hardcores won't be able to blame it on the media. When the public sees people from the president's own party disagreeing with him on a number of issues, that will speak for itself.

I would imagine Cheney met with McCain to lean on him, or to threaten him. That seems to be the way things are done in the current administration, anyway.

July 27, 2005 at 4:45 PM  
Anonymous Tom Harper said...

JollyRoger: The criminal scum doesn’t deserve the benefit of the doubt. Since I’m generally liberal, I’m more leary of rightwing extremists. The last Democratic president who used the Bush/Nixon kind of strongarm methods was Lyndon Johnson and he’s been out of office for 37 years now. But still, we need to watch out for extremism from either direction.

In general, we just need to watch our government very carefully. They work for us, and when they forget that they need to be reminded, whatever it takes.

Snave: I can’t imagine why McCain took so much shit from Bush. Considering what a gritty rough life McCain has had, compared to Bush’s sheltered coddled life, it would be like a 300-pound linebacker taking shit from a 120-pound computer geek. McCain was victimized as much as any politician during the 2000 primary. He certainly has a lot more credibility than Bush or Cheney; I hope the public starts seeing this.

It could be that moderate Republicans (McCain, Giuliani, whoever) are the only hope for 2008. I can’t think of any prominent Democrat right now who has a chance, and we have to get rid of the wingnuts.

July 27, 2005 at 6:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


July 27, 2005 at 10:34 PM  
Anonymous Tom Harper said...

Anonymous: I don't know if that's your site or if you're just telling me about it. In any case, the author of that site is incredibly stupid, cowardly and pathetic. Did I mention stupid?

July 27, 2005 at 11:39 PM  
Blogger ThomasMcCay said...

This moonbat creature is advertising his blog by dropping his url, anonymously, at lefty blogs all over the place. Never has the nerve to make an actual comment, of course.

Funny, he's anonymous, even when promoting himself.

He is not nearly as bright as he seems to think he is.

July 28, 2005 at 9:29 AM  
Anonymous Tom Harper said...

Thomas McCay: Yeah, that’s pretty ironic, staying anonymous while he’s promoting his blog all over the place. I’m perfectly happy to debate political issues, but just leaving a snide comment and a URL and then slinking off — way too tacky.

July 28, 2005 at 3:29 PM  
Anonymous JollyRoger said...


Jesus Christ, I'd never publicly admit to being part of that shit either.

July 28, 2005 at 9:37 PM  
Anonymous Tom Harper said...

Jolly Roger: Yeah, I guess if I was pulling some sort of lame shit like that I'd keep my identity a secret too.

July 28, 2005 at 10:22 PM  
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