Karl Rove vs. John Murtha
It’s the tough pull-no-punches Marine vs. the Pillsbury Doughboy. The Vietnam Veteran vs. the Chickenhawk.
Pasty-faced triple-chinned Karl Rove — who wouldn’t know a uniform if it bit him on the ass — has made a career out of slandering war veterans. His latest would-be victim is John Murtha.
In New Hampshire, Rove said “when it gets tough, they fall back of that party’s old platform of cutting and running. They may be with you for the first few bullets but they won’t be there for the last tough battles.”
Bullets?? Battles?? Where does this asshole get off? No doubt this brave keyboard warrior has seen lots of “bullets” and “battles.” It gets pretty rough out there in the Chairborne Division.
When Tim Russert asked Murtha if he’d like to respond to Rove’s statement, Murtha’s response was:
“He’s in New Hampshire. He’s making a political speech. He’s sitting in his air-conditioned office with a big, fat backside saying, uh, ‘Stay the course.’ That’s not a plan. I mean, this guy... I don’t know what his military experience is, but that’s a political statement.”
In the same interview, Murtha also had some kind words for the Chickenhawk mentality in general:
“On the floor the other day — you may have heard this — one fella says, uh, ‘We’re fighting this war.’ We’re not fighting this war. One percent of the American people, these young men and women, are fighting this war with heavy packs, with seventy pounds of equipment, with helmets on in...in 130 degrees. That’s who’s fighting this war.”
Yeah!!! You go Guy!!! What the fuck is it with all these armchair warriors who keep talking about “We”?!? “We” are at war. “We” need to get in there and fight. “We” are gonna win!
If you’re saying “We” from the safety of your keyboard (or the office or the bar or the country club), it’s not “We.” Somebody else is doing your dirty work for you.
posted by Tom Harper @ 10:12 PM
16 Comments:
As always and it is the sons and daughters of poor and middle class America. It certainly isnt the Rove or Bush children, or for that matter the Kennedys either.
NICE ARTICLE :)
I heart Murtha. I don't care if he isn't the best speaker in the world..I heart him.
James: Yup, it's the poor and middle class doing the fighting and dying, and the Bushes/Roves/Kennedys doing the warmongering.
Aden: Thanks.
Dusty: I agree. I don't know how old Murtha is, whether he's too old to run for president. But he might be the shrewdest and most straightforward politician out there right now.
I don't think I have to reiterate how I feel about the yellow-backed, yellow-magnet "patriots."
Der Rovesmarschall, unlike me, is lucky in one way-he didn't have his personal info stolen on a VA laptop. I thought I'd be madder when I got my notification letter-I only felt disgust.
Karl Rove is Joe McCarthy with a smile. Would it be possible for Ann Coulter to replace Kimberly Dozier? We coult then get HER truth from Iraq while watching her cringe from overhead fire.
It has always amazed me that so many willing for "us" to go into harm's way somehow are still standing on the dock when the ship sails.
Finally, as you know, sir, there is no comparison between Rove and Murtha. Whatever the politics, one carries honor while the other does not.
Jolly Roger: Yup, those yellow-backed yellow magnet "patriots" are beneath contempt.
That data loss shows how much contempt they have for veterans. They might actually trying DOING something for veterans instead of just waving flags and shouting slogans.
I got out in '73; I was inactive until '75, so I'm not sure if my data was on that stolen disk or not.
And Another Thing: "Joe McCarthy with a smile" -- good description. Yup, Ann Coulter in Iraq -- that would sure change her tune in a hurry.
I just can't believe all these armchair warriors who keep saying "we" when they actually mean "somebody else."
there was a good article with your same take on this fucker today, culled and pasted with other stuff on smirkingchimp this morning.
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/print.php?sid=26577
Mike: Good article. Thanks for the link.
According to a comprehensive study of all enlistees for the years 1998-99 and 2003 that The Heritage Foundation just released, the typical recruit in the all-volunteer force is wealthier, more educated and more rural than the average 18- to 24-year-old citizen is. Indeed, for every two recruits coming from the poorest neighborhoods, there are three recruits coming from the richest neighborhoods.
Yes, rural areas and the South produced more soldiers than their percentage of the population would suggest in 2003. Indeed, four rural states - Montana, Alaska, Wyoming and Maine - rank 1-2-3-4 in proportion of their 18-24 populations enlisted in the military. But this isn't news.
Enlistees have always come from rural areas. Yet a new study, reported in The Washington Post earlier this month, suggests that higher enlistment rates in rural counties are new, implying a poorer military. They err by drawing conclusions from a non-random sample of a few counties, a statistically cloaked anecdote. The only accurate way to assess military demographics is to consider all recruits.
If, for example, we consider the education of every recruit, 98% joined with high-school diplomas or better. By comparison, 75% of the general population meets that standard. Among all three-digit ZIP code areas in the USA in 2003 (one can study larger areas by isolating just the first three digits of ZIP codes), not one had a higher graduation rate among civilians than among its recruits.
In fact, since the 9/11 attacks, more volunteers have emerged from the middle and upper classes and fewer from the lowest-income groups. In 1999, both the highest fifth of the nation in income and the lowest fifth were slightly underrepresented among military volunteers. Since 2001, enlistments have increased in the top two-fifths of income levels but have decreased among the lowest fifth.
Marie: I haven't heard of this study, but if it comes from the Heritage Foundation, well...
The Heritage Foundation is a rightwing think tank that helped engineer our current mess of worldwide quagmires and a trillion-dollar deficit. So now the Heritage Foundation has a study saying there are tons of new well-educated recruits from middle class families. I'd take that about as seriously as a "study" by Timothy Leary that says everyone should take LSD twice a day.
Why did the Republican cross the road?
To catch up with the chickens.
Why do cowards run?
Cause Republicans have taken all the good hiding placed.
Why are Republicans jealous of Jesus?
Cause Jesus can raise the dead and all Republicans can raise is the debt.
What is the difference between a Republican and God?
God was willing to sacrifice his son for the cause, Republicans aren’t.
How many Republicans does it take to win a war?
Who knows, they have never won one.
PoliShifter: LOL. Good ones. Too bad they're so true. Kinda sad and funny at the same time.
Rove should be jailed for his bit in the treasonous act of outing Valerie Plame!! Its funny how the Bushies ignore it when one of their own breaks the law. Hypocrites.
Canuckistani: Yup, Rove and everyone else involved in Plamegate (Libby, Cheney) should be jailed. Bush is so concerned about national security that he has to spy on all of us, but he does nothing when somebody actually does jeopardize our national security.
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