Dennis Hastert: “I’d Rather Be Waterboarding”
Our Twisted Sickfuck of the Week Award goes to Dennis Hastert. After the Republicans passed the Torturers’ Protection Act of 2006, Hastert started spewing.
He said Democratic opponents “voted today in favor of MORE rights for terrorists. So the same terrorists who plan to harm innocent Americans and their freedom worldwide would be coddled, if we followed the Democrat plan.”
No Buttwipe, not terrorists. People ACCUSED of being terrorists. SUSPECTED of being terrorists. DUUUUHHHHH!!!! The third highest-ranking member of our government — he’s two heartbeats away from the presidency — doesn’t know the difference between a criminal and a person who’s SUSPECTED of being a criminal. How scary is that???
For that matter, the White House and a majority of Congress doesn’t know the difference either. ::sigh:: We live in “interesting times.”
Just before the Torturers’ Protection Act was voted on, Tom DeLay wannabe John Boehner was baiting the Democrats. He said “Will my Democrat friends work with Republicans to give the president the tools he needs to continue to stop terrorist attacks before they happen, or will they vote to force him to fight the terrorists with one arm tied behind his back?”
Nancy Pelosi said “Speaker Hastert’s false and inflammatory rhetoric is yet another desperate attempt to mislead the American people and provoke fear.”
Dennis Kucinich said “This bill is everything we don’t believe in.”
John Murtha — one of the few people in this group who actually has first-hand combat experience — said “It gives too much leeway to the president. And I think when you tamper with the Geneva Conventions ... you hurt our ability to protect the troops.”
posted by Tom Harper @ 11:58 AM
16 Comments:
Nancy Pelosi said “Speaker Hastert’s false and inflammatory rhetoric is yet another desperate attempt to mislead the American people and provoke fear.”
Well, Nancy, you and the rest of the "leaders" on the left need to be doing something to expose this tactic and COUNTER IT! Whining, wringing of hands and gnashing of teeth are things which don't get the job done. Get off your butts and explain to Americans why your party would do a better job than the Bush-corrupted GOP... because you have less than 40 days to do it!!
I would tell Nancy to write to (or call) her Representative, but she IS her Representative. Arrrrgh.
Hastert can't tell the difference between terrorists and people who are suspected of being terrorists, but I would expect it from him because I don't think he can't tell his head from his butt.
I believe that torturing people does not represent strength, and that it isn't leadership. It goes against American values, the moral values of which the Bush crew likes to rant at length.
Re. Boehner's comment, I think that sounds like something he would say, because he wants absolute power like the Bush administration wants. As much as we DO need to keep terrorists at bay and keep Americans safe, we also don't need to use the "war on terror" as a justification for eroding civil rights, for weakening the constitution so that a handful of sick people can control our country with an iron fist, and for justifying unprovoked invasions of other countries. When Boehner says "give the president the tools he needs", he probably means giving the president absolute power... no House necessary, no Senate, no courts... and wow, wouldn't that just be great?
Snave: Oh my God, what are you saying? You mean it isn't enough for Democrats to just sit there wringing their hands? They're supposed to get out there and explain themselves and sell themselves, and take some control? Hmmm, that's a thought.
"Tell Nancy to write or call her representative" LOL. And yeah, if people like Boehner get their wish, they themselves might be out of a job (or sent to Gitmo after they're no longer useful).
Somebody described Hastert as "the dimbulb that Tom DeLay screwed in" (I think that was the quote). That's as good a description as I've heard.
those fucking democrats....spineless, ballless democrats...if they thought the fucking bill was sooo terrible..then why the fuck did they vote it in..????? kiss my red neck ass...
sorry..i get caried away.
It's like I said earlier this evening-letting Le Chimpereur decide who is/is not a "combatant" is about the same as handing out knicves in the mental ward.
Hastert is about as pathetically stupid as my own "representative," that graft-loving stupid fuck Boehner. The dangers of inbreeding have never been clearer.
Kvatch: Hmmm, “Bush” and “fight” in the same sentence. Little Georgie had the chance to do that 35 years ago, and he ran to Daddy with his tail between his legs. He’s a chickenhawk, just like Hastert and the rest of those Constitution-shredding traitors. They’re dangerous and they’re pitiful, and that’s a scary combination.
Yellowdog Granny: Yup, spineless and ball-less, that’s the Dems (some of them anyway). Some of them have spines and balls, just not enough of them.
Jolly Roger: Letting somebody as sheltered and pampered as the Chimperor decide who’s a combatant or non-combatant — or even use the word “combat” in a sentence — is totally insane. Hastert and Boehner — what a pair. As a famous movie line goes, “these people give inbreeding a bad name.”
Tom: stop by tomorrow. That's all.
As usual, great post.
Suspected sushmeckted. Why do you liberals always insist on splitting hairs and making such complex and meaningless distictions?
Can't we all just agree that terrorists are evil and we have to do everything we can to destroy them, without always trying to catagorize them so they fit your pussy laws?
Jeeez, you liberals are so concerned with these little things, you fail to see the big picture!
Repent people! This is your last chance! The savior has come as promised to lead us to the promised land!
(I'm not feeling so well about all this actually. I can't even write about it yet).
word.
But you know what - we're supposed to be BETTER than this. Instead of arguing over what and who constitutes torture, why aren't we finding another way? America is supposed to be founded on inguenity and creativity. Where is an alternative?
And then there's the guy who put "Kip Hawley is an idiot" on his ziploc bag at the airport - and he got DETAINED. WTF??? I bet they'd love to interrogate him with the new laws.
before long, the gestappo will be after you, Tom. Just remember to lie early and often. They they won't be able to tell the truth from fiction when they tortur....er, interview you.
I.M. Dedd: Thanks. I’ll be there.
Kvatch: That sounds like an excellent campaign. There are lots of traitors to post about.
PragueTwin: Yes, now that you mention it, I guess us wimpy liberals will be the downfall of this great nation. Real He-Men aren’t afraid to spreadeagle and torture :)
Baxterwatch: That’s an idea — American inventiveness and ingenuity. Whatever happened to that? Yes, the Gestapo may come after all of us, one by one. We probably should all psyche ourselves up to be masochists so we can enjoy our “interviews.”
Too bad John Murtha hasn't read the Geneva convention to see how it applies to nonuniformed combatants.
The Geneva Convention explicitly excludes non-uniformed combatants like Al Qaeda fighters. The Geneva Convention, by its own terms, does not apply to the detainees at Gitmo.
Now of course the ACLU would like to extend both the Constitution and the Geneva Convention to Gitmo detainees. Rights that even US citizens don't have. I wonder how the ACLU would act if it heard that US prisons were buying Bibles for all its prisoners.
American Crusader: I’m glad to see you’re a Coast Guard veteran, but I’m guessing John Murtha has a lot more first-hand experience with wartime issues. He was making the point (like others have) that we’re endangering future American POWs when we dodge the Geneva Convention and stoop to the level of a third world dictatorship.
I don’t claim to know whether we’re bound by the Geneva Convention or not; I’ve seen official-looking quotes stating both sides. But morally and ethically we should be following it, to show that we’re better than terrorists and third world strongmen. Conservatives always hate it (so do I for that matter) when a convicted murderer is set free on a technicality. But that’s just what our own government is doing with the Constitution and the Geneva Convention. It’s disgraceful to see the president and attorney general poring over the Constitution and Geneva Convention, looking for technicalities, seeing how they can make an end run.
We might not agree... but I'm glad to see you posted my comments.
American Crusader: Sure, I have nothing against disagreement and debate. I only use comment moderation to keep the wackoid nutcases out. I seem to attract them for some reason.
Trolls who can't make a coherent argument usually resort to juvenile name-calling anyways.
In general, all they do is take away from the post...regardless of whose side they might be on.
This is my take on the Mark Foley situation. I'm putting in here because I don't like advertising for my blog at someone else's site.
http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID
=28616043&postID=115988230507601955
Interesting dialogue over there. I'm glad to see you're at least holding Foley to the same standards as previous Democrats who have had similar scandals.
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