Battle on September 15th: Treehugging Surrender Monkeys versus Patriots Who Love America
On September 15th in Washington, D.C. there will be a showdown between the two Americas. Tens of thousands of white-flag-waving socialist pussies will be out there, showing their contempt for this great nation and everything she stands for. And they’ll be met by tens of thousands of proud red-blooded patriotic Americans who support the troops and love their country.
At least that’s the description from Michelle Malkin’s column. And she wouldn’t lie, would she? I don’t usually pay much attention to the rightwing spewbuckets, but her column appeared in our local Podunk paper the other day and I made the mistake of reading it. God what a dickhead!
So the Looney Left will be countered on September 15th by the Gathering of Eagles. LOL. How many of these “Eagles” have ever served in combat — or would even know a military uniform if it bit ‘em on the ass — and how many are doing their “fighting” from behind their computer monitors? Any guesses?
Same with the Victory Caucus and Move America Forward — two other pathetic rightwing chickenhawk organizations taking part in the September 15th showdown.
Would YOU like to join some of these pro-war groups? Here's how to find out if you're qualified: You have to be able and willing to fight all of your “battles” at your computer — and at fundraising drives — and slander everyone who disagrees with Iraqmire. If you’ve got the guts and stamina to perform these strenuous back-breaking tasks, you too can be a proud member of the Victory Caucus or Move America Forward.
One of the articles at the Move America Forward website talks about the “Fight For Victory Tour” and how to drum up support for the war. Drumming up support for the war??? Here's how you can do that: ENLIST, ASSHOLE!!! Soldiers are being sent back to Iraq again and again, sometimes for a fourth or fifth tour, and sometimes in spite of injuries and disabilities. And their chickenhawk “supporters” are “helping” them by “drumming up support.” Fuckin’ IDIOTS!!
If somebody is walking down the street, struggling to carry a large object that’s too heavy, some people would walk up and offer to help. And other people would gather on the sidelines and yell out “Come on, you can do it!” “Yeah!” “Hey, lets all stand here and support this person who's trying not to drop that piano on his foot.”
Labels: Gathering of Eagles, Michelle Malkin, Move America Forward, Victory Caucus
posted by Tom Harper @ 5:53 PM
24 Comments:
Tom, I want to say that I do not know how some are in support of a surge when the Generals are talking about the wear and the pressure it has put on our troops and their families.
Then I thought, none of these supporters of said surge is affected by this war. They do not have family members in this fight and they know that they want be asked to give up their children for this war unless they volunteer.
Let me correct that, maybe some of these folks have sons and daughters in this surge and they just buy into all the lies Bush can tell them.
I think if a draft is called you will see those same people who support Bush's war and surge screaming bloody murder, along with the young people of this country.
Move America Forward is an Orwellian name for an unfunny joke.
As far as that inbred cretin moron Malkin, I am trying very hard to control my tendency to begin to recite my normal litany of 4-letter slurs every time I see that _____'s name in print. I think I actually hate her worse than I hate Ann C___ler, and believe me, I hate C___ler.
The yellow-backed Chimpleton cowards are a bunch of entitlement-class pussies that want it all-wars, prisons, schools, highways-but they don't want to pay for anything. That's COMMANISM, man! And don't even THINK of asking one of them to SERVE in one of these wars they all love so much! Fighting and dying is for "them!"
Let's Talk: The Iraqi war is so removed from most Americans that it's just a distant news item, something to argue about. I think it's contemptible for war "supporters" to be so gung ho about this war when they've contributed absolutely nothing to it and are not making a single sacrifice. Other people's children are sent back to fight again and again and again, and all these "supporters" can do is yell "support our troops" and slander everyone who disagrees with them. Yes, a draft would sure get these chickenhawks squirming and sputtering.
Jolly Roger: Yeah, Malking is pretty contemptible. Move America Forward, don't get me started. I first heard of them in the summer of '04 when they tried to ban Sicko from movie theaters across the country. A few months ago, every one of the Bring It On! contributors got an individual nasty slanderous e-mail from someone at Move America Forward. I sent an equally venomous reply to whoever it was. I don't know if she received it but at least I let off some steam.
Yes, communism is exactly what these neocons want. Wars, prisons, huge subsidies and giveaways for Iraqmire contractors -- all paid for by "other" people, since there have been such huge tax cuts for everybody who's benefitted from the Iraqi invasion.
How many of those masses of matter will be there bcause they are paid to be like Malkin.
The Malkins's and the Coulter's love to appear at these evnts to "fire up the chickens" in the pot of ignorance.
But would these skinny troll twisters, be there running their mouths if large fees weren't thrown their way.
I've been seeing the so-called Move Murika Forward ads on local TV and I live in the blue state of New York!
Can you imagine the coverage they must be getting below the Mason-Dixon line in Jesusland? Scary.
About Malkin, I read she doesn't pen her columns. Her hubby, Jesse, does all the writing and she just ads her name to them. Kinda' like little Judy "warmonger" Miller and her late Pravda column. It was written by military guys (pro-Iraq war) and she just added her name to them.
Larry: "Masses of matter" LOL. That's true, a lot of those people must be getting paid, or there's some sort of favor returned. So many of these "public" events are invitation only, and everyone is instructed to erupt into "spontaneous" cheering and applauding at certain cues. Pitiful.
Christopher: I've never seen any TV ads for Move America Forward. I'm sure they're good for a laugh, but it's scary how many people get sucked in by them.
I didn't know that about Malkin or Judy Miller, but it figures.
I wonder how many of these so-called "Eagles" will actually show up?
Pretty sad when you have to "drum up" support for the occupation of Iraq with ferverant flag waiving and the typical appeal to patriotism. It's the easiest form of propaganda to push...But it fits. I don't expect the likes of Malkin to put much effort into it beyond "support the troops, support Bush, support America"
It's easy to blur the "support the troops" propaganda.
Republicans can cut VA benefits and end the tours of the soldiers but when Democrats and Progressives protest to end the occupation they are the ones who are painted as not supporting the troops.
Like you said Tom, all these fuckers should be forced to go serve.
If you want to "support" an unjust, illogical war of choice, then you should have to go fight it. Not stand behind the troops and cheerlead.
These guys glamorize war and the killing of Iraqis (os as they call them, 'Qaedas or "terrorists") they should be lining up to kill themselves a "towel head" "camel jockey".
Funny, I don't see our military ranks swelling with chickenhawks eager to so action.
What I do see is a plethora of chicken hawks on the sidelines that talk like Rambo and think war is a video game.
When a war is proven to be unjust, it is difficult to maintain public support of it.
A "just war" in itself seems like a contradiction.
But IF Saddam had truly attatcked us on 9/11, there would likely be no issue staying in Iraq. We nuked Japan for Christ sake and killed 10 million Vietmanese.
But the lies have been exposed and public support has eroded. The last bastion of the NeoCon is to appeal to the brain stem level of Patriotism much as Nazi Germany tried to do in the last days of their war.
PoliShifter: It'll be interesting to see how many "Eagles" show up. They're claiming that 30,000 of them showed up earlier to counter a rally by Cindy Sheehan. We'll see...
Even if there is a huge turnout, that doesn't change the fact that barely a quarter of the population still supports Iraqmire. A lot of these "Eagles" are probably getting paid, or get some personal benefit from our trillion dollar adventure in Iraq. Whatever turnout they get will still be a miniscule portion of the population.
I think a lot of these "Eagles" really do think the Iraqi war is just a video game, like you were saying. How sad is that.
I LOVE PoliShifter's observation: "The last bastion of the NeoCon is to appeal to the brain stem level of Patriotism much as Nazi Germany tried to do in the last days of their war."
Tom, I know you and I and Snave and many others have done posts about the fact that these gung-ho jerks should enlist, starting with the Bush twins. Let's add Romney's kids to that.
As to reinstituting the draft, the chickenhawks won't be affected much by it because they and theirs will get deferments and plum assignments just like they did during Vietnam.
To paraphrase the late Leona Helmsly, combat is for the little people.
I DO believe, along with Let's Talk, that the young people will protest in vast numbers (with plenty of aging boomers behind them), such that the draft simply won't happen. At least I hope so.
And about the Sept. 15th showdown - the neocons will spin it their way no matter how many or how few people showed up. I remember seeing Nixon on TV showing off the - what was it - 50,000 letters from the "silent majority" supporting the war, but made NO mention of the 500,000 LIVE PEOPLE who showed up to march on Washington!
When will this nightmare be over!?
Candace: Ah yes, Nixon's "silent majority." Today's neocons are using that same reasoning, even if not that exact phrase. In Malkin's column that I linked (or in one of the links in that column), they go on and on about how support for the Iraqi war is surging and the moonbats are losing momentum; they're all has-beens and "Jane Fonda retreads." Huh?? What planet are those chickenhawks living on?
I might be in favor of a draft if it was universal -- no exceptions whatsoever -- AND if it included other options besides the military. A Peace Corps/VISTA kind of thing, volunteering in the inner cities, building the infrastructure, environmental cleanup, or the military. I'm not totally in favor of this but I think it would have an upside. The draft took millions of people of every race, income level and political viewpoint and threw them all into a huge melting pot. Even though I was glad when the draft ended, I think the country benefitted when people weren't secluded in their own tiny segment of society.
I still think the Chickenhawks should have been the first to go serve their country! After all, those warmongers never have served!
5 deferment Cheney
AWOL Bush
Suzie-Q(S-Q): Damn right. If Cheney, Bush or Rove had the slightest knowledge of what war is like, we wouldn't have invaded Iraq.
LOL! I read this post to my husband, who served in the Army just before the first Gulf Conflict, and he said your piano-carrying analogy was a very apt one. Support indeed! Enlist, if it means that much to you! Oh, wait, rich conservatives don't actually go to war, do they? Just the poor kids from all across the political spectrum join the military. Just the kids who need some direction in their life and aren't ready for college or don't want to go to college or can't afford college unles they go get shot at for a couple of years.
Comedian Patton Oswalt once said that you should only be allowed to buy a Hummer vehicle if you go to Iraq and get the oil yourself. Perhaps the same should be said of the war itself? If you support it, then you *must* spend some time there.
And Jolly Roger's comment reminds me of another one: When I feed the poor, they call me a saint; when I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist. We've got to take back the language of paying for veteran care and safety away from these brain stems that call giving a damn about these young people "communist."
Mile High Pixie: Glad you liked the analogy. That's just how it strikes me -- "supporting" the war is like standing there and "supporting" and cheerleading somebody who's struggling not to drop a heavy object. I also like your joke about "you should only be allowed to drive a Hummer if you go to Iraq and get the oil yourself."
You're right, we've got to take the language back from these people who think "patriotism" means blindly supporting every invasion of our wannabe president.
Malkin is a nutcase.
I can't believe that there's actually a paper in the country that publishes her ramblings.
I love they way she throws around "socialist".
So the people against the war are all against private property and the means of production should only be run by the state?
Interesting.
What a dipshit.
She should just go back to what she's good at: blowing old republican men for money.
Mike: Yeah, Malkin is really out there. She almost makes Ann Coulter sound rational. I don't care what somebody's views are if they can argue with facts and logic. Malkin sounds about as coherent as an 8-year-old on meth.
These assholes were at the March on the Pentagon last March. I even have a photo of one of them holding up a sign that read "Peace Sucks".
I guess I had better be careful where I step on the 15th.
Robert: "Peace Sucks" LOL. That really is what a lot of those chickenhawks think. After all, how much profit does Halliburton/KBR make during peace time?
I was wondering if any of you could stop insulting Michelle Malking long enough to note that
A) Move America Forward has a retired officer, a gold star mother, and the parent of a soldier currently in Iraq on its board of directors.
B) That the Gathering of Eagles group has a large number of veterans in its memberships, including at least three veterans *organizations*
C) 1/3rd of the members of the Victory Caucus are military veterans.
In other words, a fair number of these "chickenhawks" who should "enlist" are actually already retired from the military!
Aquinas Dad: Yes, I'm sure there are some soldiers and veterans in these groups. But the fact remains that there are a lot of people who "support" this war and aren't contributing a damn thing to it. They're willing to fight to the last drop of somebody else's blood.
A few months ago a member of Move America Forward sent a nasty e-mail to me and every other writer at Bring It On! (a group blog I contribute to). It was straight out of the blue; none of us had had any contact or dealings with that group. And in 2004 Move America Forward tried to get Fahrenheit 911 banned from movie theaters. So much for that "free enterprise" that conservatives are always talking about.
Michelle Malkin is a joke. The conservative movement is hindering itself by being associated with jerks like her. Some conservative columnists and bloggers are intelligent and can discuss things civilly, but she isn't one of them.
Dad,
Any cross section of America will have supporters of war and detractors.
And people who have served and people who have not.
I'm sad that there is even one veteran out there that could possibly support this president, but sadly, any cross section also includes morons..
Tom,
Ah, I see - you have a short memory. Let me quote you from this very page:
"Same with the Victory Caucus and Move America Forward — two other pathetic rightwing chickenhawk organizations taking part in the September 15th showdown"
and
"...Would YOU like to join some of these pro-war groups? Here's how to find out if you're qualified: You have to be able and willing to fight all of your “battles” at your computer"
and an entire paragraph.
"One of the articles at the Move America Forward website talks about the “Fight For Victory Tour” and how to drum up support for the war. Drumming up support for the war??? Here's how you can do that: ENLIST, ASSHOLE!!! Soldiers are being sent back to Iraq again and again, sometimes for a fourth or fifth tour, and sometimes in spite of injuries and disabilities. And their chickenhawk “supporters” are “helping” them by “drumming up support.” Fuckin’ IDIOTS!!"
from comments
"I think it's contemptible for war "supporters" to be so gung ho about this war when they've contributed absolutely nothing to it and are not making a single sacrifice."
and
"..."supporting" the war is like standing there and "supporting" and cheerleading somebody who's struggling not to drop a heavy object."
You are clearly making the case that the members of these groups are non-vets that aren't involved in the war in any way but saying 'good job'. When I point out that this is not true, that many of the founders of these groups (and many members) are veterans or the family of soldiers in the war, what was your reply?
"Yes, I'm sure there are some soldiers and veterans in these groups. But the fact remains that there are a lot of people who "support" this war and aren't contributing a damn thing to it."
IN OTHER WORDS you had no idea that there were so many veteran leaders in these groups ["I am sure" tells me that] or that many military associations are group members of these groups, and have no idea if these groups are, say, sending equipment, food, pharmaceuticals, and luxury items to US Soldiers in the Middle East and to Iraqis, or helping the families of deployed servicemembers call back and forth..
Which, BTW, these groups either do or use a portion of the funds they raise to support.
Hardly standing around watching.
Tom, your credibility is zero, now. Well, with honest people, at least.
A.D.: OK, I'll walk you through this slooowly so you won't have any comprehension problems:
Yes, I referred to Victory Caucus and Move America Forward as chickenhawk organizations. And yes I also acknowledged that there are probably some soldiers and veterans in those groups. Oh my God this is so confusing. Since there are millions of veterans (I'm one also, incidentally), any large group will probably have veterans among their membership.
The pitiful fact is that there are millions of chickenhawks who contribute nothing to the war except slandering everyone who disagrees. And that was the main point of my post.
You probably won't need to worry about your own credibility until you start getting some readers at your blog. Oops, my bad, I just looked, and you've finally gotten one comment. Yippeee!
A.D.: Forget it -- your last comment didn't get published. If you have nothing better to do than keep coming back and back and back to argue the same points over and over and over, you have too much time on your hands. Find something constructive to do with all your free time.
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