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Wednesday, August 12, 2009

Rightwing “Logic”

How’s that for an Oxymoron. For some sick reason, I sometimes surf a few of the wingnut blogs. It’s entertaining in some twisted sort of way; it’s probably that same sickfuck gene that makes people stare at car accidents.

Some people just shouldn’t try to think. It’s too much of a strain, and the results are a catastrophe. Take this example (please!):

Obama was referring to the Post Office, FedEx and UPS to illustrate why a government-paid health insurance option would NOT drive private health insurers out of business. Here’s how a certain unnamed unlinked dimwit interpreted Obama’s statement:

“Dude…you just friggin’ proved our point! Private enterprise, when left unmolested by Big Government, will innovate every time. Whereas a government entity trying to do what businesses do (in this example, the Postal Service) will be bastions of inefficiency and waste…which is exactly what the USPS is! His ham-handed analogy is accurate, though: private insurance is like FedEx and UPS, and ObamaCare will be like the USPS.”

For anybody whose IQ is higher than their shoe size (the above-mentioned blogger is clearly not in that category), Obama’s speech clearly shows that government-paid health care is NOT a threat to the insurance industry; i.e. millions of people use FedEx and UPS because it’s more efficient.

Another wingtard blogger was trying to ridicule that paranoid leftwing conspiracy theory that [picture him sighing and rolling his eyes] some big mysterious corporation is masterminding [smirk] these town hall riots.

“I don’t know about you, but I sure would like to know specifically which insurance companies and ‘special interests’ — specific lobbying groups and companies — are organizing and paying for these demonstrations? After all, if you’re going to smear the thousands and thousands of people who are opposed to a public policy initiative like health care reform and show up at these congressional town halls, it should be snap to identify those companies who are paying for these protestors to come out and demonstrate, right?”

DUUUHHH!!! First of all, FreedomWorks and Americans For Prosperity (among others) are household names among millions of Americans who don’t rely on the mainstream “media” for their information.

Second — and this is too obvious to even bother spelling out — insurance lobbies are probably not advertising the fact that they’ve “motivated” a bunch of Rent-A-Drones to do their dirty work for them. And the drones themselves are probably not saying “huh, uh, I just came here because my puppetmaster told me to.”

Elsewhere — there’s some terrific news for Birthers, Fetus-Worshippers, dickless rightwing militia scum and other misfits: Scientists have discovered the long-lost place of your origins. Don’t you see what this means? You finally have a Home! Please go there. Now.


Anonymous Bee said...

BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA I just followed the last link, and scared lil'bee out of the kitchen I laughed so hard. Gotta come back later, laughing too hard to type properly!

August 12, 2009 at 4:21 PM  
Blogger Holte Ender said...

Tom - I am talking to you from Wasp-17 so please excuse me if I sound a little "challenged", I am so looking forward to Labor Day, lets get this thing over, the lies, the accusations, the confusion did I mention the lies.
The Federal government offers dozens (at least) of health plans to its employees, so the Feds do know how the system works, they have an HR that knows health insurance inside out. We have a military, in which all personnel are covered, not just for health, but life insurance too. Federal employees are very grateful to the government for their benefits, they are not free benefits, nothing is free, but the health plans are well researched and competitive.

August 12, 2009 at 7:26 PM  
Blogger whitecollargreenspaceguy said...

The Government already has the funds to pay for Universal Health Care. It is time to stop the madness and violence at the health care reform meetings. Using shift work for white collar jobs could cut the cost of the 500 million square feet of office space currently in used by the federal governe=ment by up to 50%. This would save enough money to provide universal health care. It could also reduce the carbon footprint by 50%. For details go to:

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"Using Shift work for white collar jobs to greatly reduce the fiscal and environmental cost of new office space"

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August 12, 2009 at 7:58 PM  
Blogger Enemy of the Republic said...

Thank you for this post. I am getting so sick of the right wing nutjobs who are making up more stupid shit about the health care debate than a husband caught with a prostitute. They are totally harshing my mellow.

August 12, 2009 at 8:09 PM  
Anonymous S.W. Anderson said...

An unidentified lying object wrote:

". . . I sure would like to know specifically which insurance companies and ‘special interests’ — specific lobbying groups and companies — are organizing and paying for these demonstrations?"

I'd recommend trading time spent listening to Rash Lamebug and watching Faux News for some quality time with, oh, Ed Schultz, Thom Hartmann, maybe Randi Rhodes, and watching Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow. They're clearing up this mystery daily.

But in reality, I don't think this person wants to know the answer. I think he/she prefers to believe it's all just being made up by us socialists.

What I would like to know is why that blogger put a question mark at the end of a declarative sentence.

August 12, 2009 at 9:16 PM  
Anonymous hampshire said...

Think about health care logic..

August 13, 2009 at 12:04 AM  
Anonymous Carlos said...

Fucking backward rotating planet - sweet! Like you, I make forays to the Dark Side, listening to Hannity and other dumbass right-wing megaphones. It's stunning how ignorant these people are...simply stunning.

August 13, 2009 at 3:31 AM  
Blogger Randal Graves said...

I never thought I'd live to see the day when the existence of Bizarro World was confirmed. Bravo, scienticians.

And a note to wingnuts: FedEX and UPS may be more efficient - though I'm curious as to actual, measured examinations of such things - because they're moving far fewer pieces of mail.

August 13, 2009 at 7:38 AM  
Blogger bob said...

There are some truly scary right winger blogs out there. The worst seem to be those for right wing, evangelical Christians whom paint over every political issue with their belief in "Christian values". Some of the things I've read on these blogs are outright scary. I recall one blog where the tags at the bottom of the post which was of course about Obama were: " Hitler, Socialism, Barrack Hussein Obama," and a few other ridiculous tags.

I made the mistake of replying to a few of these posts at which point I was brutally attacked. So much for Christian values. These people were ANGRY. Worse then that, it was clear they believed just about everything that was being spoon fed to them from whatever crazy AM conservative talk show they listened to.

These latest spectacles we've seen this week, with yet more Angry White Males showing their colors on national TV shows that there's still a very strong, easily influenced, uneducated group of people out there who are doing exactly what the insurance companies want them to do. Its clear these people don't know how to think for themselves nor do they understand the issue even in the most basic of terms.

August 13, 2009 at 7:59 AM  
Blogger Ricardo said...

I have a really nasty post about these people that I'm toning down and on the fence about publishing.

Oh Tom I think our right wing friends have shown us the light by telling us America will be undone by helping people at a disadvantage get health care. Yes, I get it now. Let those who have not die so there will be more for those that have and screw anyone else that hits a rough spot in life. They can die too. America is not about everyone having a shot at better standards of living, it's about every man for himself no matter how vicious.

Ah, what a wonderful place those on the right have crafted.

August 13, 2009 at 10:16 AM  
Anonymous Thomas said...

Moreover, public healthcare options will do for medicine precisely what the USPS does for shipping: offer a reliable and cheaper option that dispenses with the bells and whistles while preserving the benefits of the free market for those who choose to avail themselves of it.

August 13, 2009 at 11:42 AM  
Anonymous S.W. Anderson said...

Thomas, you're right as far as you go. But unless care is taken, private-sector health insurers will see to it that the least-healthy, most costly patients they don't want any part of will be hurried off to the public-sector health program.

And, if those high-cost patients overwhelm the program, the private insurers and their Republican political hirelings will be quick to say, There, you see? A public-option program is too expensive and too inefficient, just as we said all along.

August 13, 2009 at 3:22 PM  
Blogger Tom Harper said...

Bee: Glad you liked the link. That planet would be the perfect place for all of them.

Holte: You're right about all of those government programs you mentioned. The wingnuts just don't want the public to know, so that government-paid health care can be synonymous with "socialism!" and "government takeover!"

Whitecollargreenspaceguy: Good point about using shift work to reduce office space and save money.

Enemy: Good, I'm glad it's not just me who's getting sick and tired of the shit being spewed out. "Making up more stupid shit about the health care debate than a husband caught with a prostitute." LOL, great line.

SW: That's funny about him putting a question mark at the end of a sentence. This person is actually a professional writer and has appeared on TV, so you'd think he'd be careful about grammar. I like "unidentified lying object."

Carlos: Yup, those people really are stunning. Off to the backward planet with them.

Randal: Yes, let's hear it for them scienticians.

Bob: I've argued in the past (quite awhile ago) with both of those bloggers I quoted. People like that don't want any sort of disagreement. Disagreement gets them confused, and to compensate they lash out in fury. Hence all the profane name-calling replies you get when you try to argue or reason with people like that.

These millions of dense white males are a gold mine for large corporations who need somebody to do their dirty work for them.

Ricardo: Yup, it's amazing how people are so threatened by that radical idea of government help for people who can't afford medical care. These same people were silent when we invaded Iraq and passed the Patriot Act, but government-paid health care will bring this country to its knees.

Thomas: That's what we need, a reliable and cheaper option for health insurance. People can still pay extra for private insurance if they want to, but that shouldn't be the only choice.

August 13, 2009 at 6:38 PM  
Blogger Snave said...

On a couple of blogs I frequent, I don't tend to read comments from some bloggers who are so into the right-wing viewpoint that they are blindered. If it is a commentor whose name I recognize and whose comments I am familiar with, I basically know what they are going to say without reading it... so I save myself some spikes in blood pressure and some subsequent time trying to refute the other person's view by just scrolling down. It is usually a case where never the twain shall meet, and there is usually no debate involved, just people yelling and lecturing at each other.

I know it is a good thing to go to the Republi-bots' sites now and then to see what they are up to. It can also help us develop some talking points of our own when we examine what they are saying/implying and find gaping holes in their reasoning, if one can even call it reasoning.

Then again, I would much rather stick around at sites where I tend to agree with most of the other commentors. I'll do that about 95% of the time because it makes spending time at the computer more enjoyable.

Tom, I admire you for even going to such sites! You must have a very strong stomach! 8-)

August 13, 2009 at 7:00 PM  
Blogger J. Marquis said...

I saw Glenn Beck talking about the Post Office/UPS/Fed Ex comment and of course he was totally taking it out of context.

The thing they never talk about it is that the private delivery companies wouldn't take anything to small out-of-the-way towns. Or if they did they'd charge you an arm and a leg.

August 13, 2009 at 9:06 PM  
Blogger Holte Ender said...

The Postal Service is not perfect, but it is the best 40-odd cents worth of business you can do in a day, and if they bring you a parcel, they don't ring the doorbell and run back to their vehicle, not knowing if you are there or not like UPS does. Having said that I bet Obama wishes he hadn't mentioned the Post Office. Ouch.

August 14, 2009 at 10:39 AM  
Blogger Tom Harper said...

Snave: That's true about a lot of rightwing bloggers -- their posts and their comments. As soon as you've read the first two sentences, you know exactly what the rest is gonna be. That, plus the fact that they do and say everything in unison...

J: Exactly. If you live right downtown or near a freeway, the private mail carriers will be falling all over each other to deliver your mail. If you live at the end of a long winding road in South Podunk, you need the Post Office.

Holte: True, you get your moneys' worth from them. And we need them, for better or worse.

August 14, 2009 at 7:03 PM  

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