“The Republicans want you to die quickly if you get sick”
So what else is new? Bravo to Rep. Alan Grayson (D-FL) for telling it like it is; calling a spade a spade. He didn’t exactly tell us anything we didn’t already know, but it sure is fun watching the indignant — shocked! — reaction from the oligarchs and their inbred worshippers.
“If you get sick, America, the Republican health care plan is this: die quickly. That's right. The Republicans want you to die quickly if you get sick.”
Finally, a Democrat who speaks the truth, bluntly, without any sugar coating. I’m glad Obama is smooth-talking and non-confrontational, but somebody out there has to fight fire with fire.
Republicans have been spewing out their intelligence-insulting bullshit for months now. Unfortunately, after decades of education cuts, “intelligence-insulting” and “popular with the masses” are one and the same.
Republicans — at the instruction of their puppetmasters in the health insurance industry — spent the month of August inciting riots at town hall meetings. And we’ve spent months listening to their hysterical blubberings about “Death Panels!” “People dying in the ER waiting room!” “Obama is a fascist-communist-terrorist-socialist Muslim and he was born in Kenya!”
And now when they finally get a taste of their own medicine, they squeal like stuck pigs. Good!
Alan Grayson — come on, don’t hold back. Tell us how you really feel. It needs to be said.
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posted by Tom Harper @ 1:29 PM
26 Comments:
I've always been glad that Obama was a nice guy, and didn't stoop to the smear tactics that Republipukes like Palin are so good. However -- the time has truly come to stop trying to make nice with everybody and get this thing done.
McCain made such a point of touting himself as bipartisan, "reaching across the aisle" and yet the Repukes make that impossible. Why do they have any credibility left at all?
Yikes -- pass the tranks.
who cares? None of this will matter soon when China comes for payment on worthless treasury bills they still have our property to seize for payment.
Better brush up on your Mandarin.
I love the diversionary/Alinsky tactics. Making us think it's all about health care and big bad insurance companies when it's really about big bad government.
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How does the song go? Obama's gonna change the world. He's the "One" we've been waiting for.
He's so charming and so good at it. I've seen that charm escape him from time to time but he gets right back on track real quickly you almost miss it. He's a really suave politician and smooth talker.
He is truly the ultimate puppet master. Next to Soros of course.
Now the repubes want to "censure" Grayson, just like Wilson was censured by dems a couple of weeks ago. That's exactly why I thought that censure, after Wilson already have his backhanded apology to Obama, was STUPID. First, it just smells bad - like something the repubes would do - beating a dead horse over and over again. Second, it makes it harder to smack the GOP down when it deserves to be smacked down. Dangit all, maybe we lowly bloggers should run for Congress.
If more Democrats had this much fortitude, we'd have health care reform by now. Kudos to Grayson for refusing to apologize!
Screamin': Yup, so much for "reaching across the aisle." And no more Mr. Nice Guy. Democrats need to start doing what Grayson did; start fighting fire with fire and beating the Republicans at their own game.
Lisa: Uh oh, your Saul Alinsky/George Soros Derangement Syndrome is flaring up again. Thank God we have a public option so you can, oh, wait...
As far as the U.S. being in hock to China -- this problem started rearing its head a few years ago when Dumbya was still president. The Right was strangely silent about it then.
Bee: So far, Grayson hasn't apologized and he's said he won't. I hope he sticks to his guns. There's no comparison between Grayson and Joe Wilson, like the wingtards are making. Grayson was making a speech when he said this; he didn't jump up and try to shout down somebody else who was speaking. And you're right that the GOP censure of Wilson was a meaningless stunt.
Lew: You're right, this is exactly what the Democrats need more of -- Fortitude, spines and cojones.
Anyone who wonders if any congressional Democrat has cojones has their answer in Grayson. I hope he'll buy the Senate Democratic Caucus a round of whatever he's been drinking, so to speak. :)
I agree with Olbermann that Grayson went over the top mentioning the Holocaust. Beyond that he was harsh, but at this point it amounts to dishing back a modest amount of what Republicans have been dumping by the tanker-truckload since January.
The thing is, at basis Grayson can point to the horrific fact that 44,000-plus people die a year for lack of health care. And lack of health insurance lies behind way too many of those deaths.
In case anyone (Lisa?) doubts that or wonders how it can be, there was a mind-blowing 60 Minutes segment on it this spring. Among the highlights:
* A low-income cancer victim whose last hope for charity-subsidized treatment closed just as he approached it for help. It was a private program, the only one like it in Nevada. Other charitable programs appeared to be full to overflowing and unable to take anyone else.
* A seriously ill, nearly crippled low-income woman without insurance had her rental hospital bed repossessed when a Nevada state program cut the meager amount it had been sending her to help with her care. She was literally left with the prospect of having to make her bed on the floor. She was being cared for and partly supported by her 15-year-old daughter, and doesn't have anyone else.
Reminder: These things are happining in America, not some poverty-plagued backwater in sub-Saharan Africa. They were happening in Nevada, represented in part by archconservative, supposedly deeply religious Sen. John Ensign. And Ensign, of course, is as busy as he can be on the Senate Finance Committee trying to gut health care reform and kill any chance of a public option plan, spouting lies such as saying the public option isn't supported by the public.
Maybe Ensign doesn't know any better because he's so busy with self-administered proctological exams, he can't see or hear what's going on in the outside world.
If jerks like Ensign don't want people to stay healthy or die quickly, they sure as hell don't want to do anything or spend anything to help those in need get care.
Go Grayson!
I think maybe somebody should explain to lisa (assuming she is even capable of the most rudimentary understanding) that her moronic monkey Messiah ran up more debts BY HIMSELF than the previous 42 Presidents COMBINED. Yep-not even her spend-happy Saint Ronnie could touch her Texas wet dream.
Being a complete idiot, lisa won't have the capacity to understand that lowering healthcare costs for Americans works out as a boon for the Chinese, since we'll have more money to spend on their doodads. I am quite certain that the Chinese, the financiers of her heroes, are quite anxious for us to get healthcare costs under control. It hurts them like it hurts us.
I see Lisa has got a good handle on international finance, just like she/he has on health care. when China comes for payment on worthless treasury bills they still have our property to seize for payment. Can you just imagine it, Chinese bankers strolling round New York and saying: "We'll take The Empire State Building and The Statue of Liberty . . . how much is the East River worth, ooh look the Brooklyn Bridge." It's not about big, bad government, it's about big, bad corporations.
GEORGE SOROS WANTS YOU ALL DIEING SO HE CAN TAKE YOUR PROPARTY FOR COMUNIST GATHERRINGS MORANS!!!!
SW: I too wish Grayson would share his secret with his fellow Democrats, or buy them a round of whatever he's drinking. Maybe he'll start a trend, now that Democrats have seen that the sky won't fall if a Democrat actually gives a harsh blunt answer to months' worth of Republican lies and smears.
Maybe some of the harsh statistics (number of people who die each year from lack of health care, number of people who have health insurance and still go bankrupt if they get sick) will creep into the mainstream news if there are more of these venomous exchanges in Congress. One can hope, anyway.
Other than that Sixty Minutes episode you mentioned (which I didn't see), most of the hard facts I've seen have come from blogs and "alternate" news sites.
JR: Good point, that even our Chinese landlords would benefit when/if we ever fix this health insurance crisis. And everybody of the non-wingnut persuasion knows that Dumbya ran up most of our debt. Obama has spent trillions too, but most of that was in reaction to the shitstorm he inherited from Bush.
Holte: From here on, I'll use Lisa as my financial consultant.
Randal: sssshhhh...those fuzzy-headed liberals don't know about the master plan yet.
S.W. - Yes, Ensign is a tool. A hypocritical tool. Which, frankly, is a prerequisite for the Republican party: Preach conservative morals, and then get caught not walking the talk. Duh. At least Clinton didn't claim to be the moral compass of this country (nor did Edwards) They all lie about it - its the hippocracy that pisses this voter off.
But for Nevada, I think we should all be looking to Harry Reid - who has not done squat with his senority for the state.
I am continually astounded by the man's adoring public when you look at his record - he's not done a damn thing for nevada like he should - he's more interested in moving and shaking with the big dogs.
morons. all of them. And what it says that we elected them. sigh.
-Baxter's Mum, who is visiting after a long absence and a move to NV from NC
I now understand how the likes of Hitler took over a entire country. Fear is such a powerful tool and after the right convinced everyone that Reagan was our founding father the rest was easy. The right loves to talk morals, but they elected a alcoholic president, alcoholic vice president, few were vets in W's administration, chicken hawks. They fear big government takeover and miss the days of "small government" that tortured, wire tapped, eliminated search warrants and eliminated habeas corpus. Now they listen to Beck, alcoholic and drug user, Limbaugh, drug addict O'Reilly anger management zone, Hannity paranoia leader and Coulter, anti semitic hate monger. Not one of these "great Americans" served their country. Follow a string of pervert governors and congressmen. All the red states bring in more Federal funds than contribute. They are the closest thing to true socialist states that I can imagine. EVERYONE is on aid and the libraries are empty of books. I live in one. The main industries are hospitals, bars, churches and prisons. The pro life folks walk around dressed to the nines in clothes made by children in unsafe working conditions. The "good" people wear their blood diamonds with pride. They complain about illegal immigrants, but won't hire an American in their businesses. The blacks sadly wear Nike labels with pride. A company that has repeatedly been caught using slave labor. They may as well wear white sheets. I read the Bible in my own home. Churches are filled with lies, hatred and kettles calling the pots black. Abortion, if a choice is a horrible choice, so why does the pro life movement fight birth control? Why when I worked with troubled youth or special education did no one from the pro life movement make the most genuine effort at life? Making a place in society for kids that have no place in society. I agree in principle with each and every thing the Republican party SAYS it stands for . I have been in the Middle East, I have come home to my Viet Nam era friends in homeless shelters while people waved Chinese flags and yelled support our troops. Then would call the cops on my homeless best friend who fought for their cowardly ass the last time around. Don't let them sell you ideas like there is no prayer allowed in school. What makes them mad is that they can't tell the kids which prayer to say. There are no laws restricting prayer. There are only laws restricting wanna be Western Christian Talibans from telling your child what prayer to say. Take the gloves off with these idiots. Save your country. I hate big government too. That is why want someone with guts like Grayson's to finally tell the truth. Corporations have the rights of the individual, but do not have the obligations of the individual. I agree in principle with virtually everything that the Republicans SAY they stand for. That is why we have got to take our country back from these immoral traitors.
BaxtersMum: Hi, I remember you. Welcome back. Harry Reid seems to be in a perpetual state where he's just about to take the gloves off and start kicking butt. It's like there's been a steady drumroll for years while he stands there, posing, saying "all right, that's it, no more Mr. Nice Guy, here goes..."
Anonymous: Great comment and description of our situation. I can't think of anything to add.
Yeah why worry about China and their ever growing military and economy.
And while Obama is racing to shut down our weapons China is racing to build theirs up.
This is why defense should be number one.
I miss Jimmy Carter
anon had a homeless best friend? would never let a best friend or any friend be homeless especially with a roll out couch.
The only thing the republicans want to die is this bill.
Obviously no on has spoken to their doctors. Try it and see what they think.
You may not like what you hear.
Meanwhile unemployment and forclosures are continuing at record pace. And all we hear is how much more difficult it will be for businesses to employ people or keep the doors open.
Typical liberal policies big,government,big taxes and no jobs. See how well it's worked for all those liberal run inner cities for the last 50 years.
While it becomes harder for people to feed their families , keep a roof over their heads or pay their utility bills who cares,we'll have free health care .
Who's going to pay for it? The people who keep losing their jobs?
"The only thing the republicans want to die is this bill." No, they also are quite happy about the 45,000 Americans who die each year from lack of health care. And a lot of those people HAD insurance but were dumped by their insurer and/or the insurer wouldn't cover the lifesaving procedure the person needed. And that's AOK with Republicans since those dead people had already been born.
Tom, I wouldn't go so far as to say Republicans, health insurance executives and corporate America generally are happy about nearly 45,000 dying each year for lack of health care. It's just that to them a supposedly free market is more important. To them, lower taxes are more important. And the most important thing of all all to them is maximizing profits.
So, the facts being out there, they've made a clear choice. If maintaining their cushy, sky-high-profits status quo means 45,000 people a year have to die, c'est la vie. Obviously, they're OK with that. And so are their Republican agents in Congress.
However, if some dirt-poor mother of two learns she's pregnant with a profoundly abnormal fetus and decides she better have an abortion — suddenly, every life is precious. Of course, if she carries the pregnancy to term and the newborn survives, needing 24/7 care the family can't begin to afford, well, that's their problem. And they shouldn't expect big, bad government to bail them out. Bailouts are for big banks and corporations, not poor families!
What we're really fighting here is unbridled hypocrisy, dishonesty, stupidity, greed and selfishness. You might call those the real core values of conservatives, Republican and libertarian alike. Not because I say so, BTW, but judging by their words and deeds, consistently, over 30-plus years.
And, BTW, Senate Democrats need someone more willing and better able to lead that fight than Harry Reid. He's had his turn at bat and just keeps on bunting. Bring on Schumer or Boxer, then see how soon the bases get loaded and the ball goes out of the park.
It's population control Tom . We will be doing that with the health care bill anyway with Death Panels.
hard to believe how stupid lisa is - because 8 years of reagan and 12 years of bushes have done wonders for the american economy and debt situation.
and lets not forget how kind reagan was to people with HIV - coddled those people didnt he.
republicans deep down want anyone who isnt them (white, rich, gun loving, christian) to leave this country. whether by emigration or death, makes not difference.
they thrive on hate. ronald reagan talk a lot of people to hate - hate govt and hate people who dont belong here and we are paying the price now.
and lisa can spin whatever she wants - george bush LIED to get us into war- and for that he will not be forgotten in this life or the next.
Dcap: Those 20 percenters (or whatever the actual percentage is) will never get it, no matter how many times they get walked through it.
Good description of Republican philosophy in the last 3 decades. They keep saying they want to attract more people and expand their base, but they hate everybody who isn't exactly like themselves. And now John McCain is trying to revive that "Big Tent" and make the Republican Party more open and more attractive to voters. Good luck with that one.
Grayson and Kucinich need to team up.
They would be the power couple from Washington.. :)
They're about the only two I can stomach at this juncture. Frank's OK, too.
Mike: You're right, those 2 would make an excellent team.
Keep blaming republicans. But in the last 9 months it's easy to see where the democrats want to lead us.
Talk to any business owner and any doctor to get the facts. Not from Michael "Fat Ass" Moore.
"Talk to any business owner and any doctor to get the facts." If all or most doctors and business owners were against Obama's agenda, McCain would have won the election by a landslide.
BS Tom. Regular middle class people and minorities voted for Obama who by the way didn't win by a landslide.
Besides he campaigned on affordable healthcare and tax reductions for the middle class.
Not increses at every turn and free healthcare for illegals. LIAR!!!
Lisa: Still glued to Fox News and talk radio, I see. Whatever works for you...
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