Who Hijacked Our Country

Friday, December 18, 2009

Traitor John Boehner Hates The Troops

Weepin’ Woody “John” Boehner is threatening to withhold emergency funding for the troop surge in Afghanistan. Don’t worry, he didn’t suddenly grow an IQ and start questioning why we’re still in Afghanistan after eight years of flailing.

Nope. This is just his little way of protesting the transfer of Guantanamo Bay prisoners onto U.S. soil. You know, because American prisoners are all pure and innocent, and those dirty swarthy Gitmo prisoners are — well, EEEEK!! — they’re dangerous!

Obama is planning to move some of the Gitmo prisoners to an under-used maximum security prison in Thomson, Illinois. This has provided still another burning issue for rightwing demagogues to get their inbreds all riled up about.

For people whose IQs are HIGHER than their shoe sizes, Judge Royce Lamberth offers a bit of perspective. At a meeting of the American Bar Association, he told his audience that American street gangs are more deadly than most of the Gitmo prisoners.

He said: “The gangs are more murderous, I think, than some of these people at Guantanamo. They've certainly killed their share of witnesses here.”

It’s too bad the American public has been so dumbed down — and I mean DUMBED DOOOOWWWWNN!!! — that such a simple common-sense obvious fact needed to be spelled out.

What exactly is the “my mommy and daddy are first cousins” brigade so scared of? Let’s say one of those icky Muslim furriners gets acquitted — or escapes — in the small remote town of Thomson, IL. OK, so here’s Hassan al-Habib walking along, completely unnoticed. And now he’s making a beeline for the nearest airport. Oh My God, he’s just hijacked a plane, and he’s careening toward a skyscraper with it!!!!

To paraphrase an old saying, you can never overestimate people’s paranoia. And when you combine that paranoia with stupidity, you get — well, you get a huge huuuge following for Rush O’Hannity and Weepin’ Woody.

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Blogger Randal Graves said...

I completely agree, never misunderestimate the power of fear. But that's what happens when you seed the water supply with hallucinogens.

That IS what happened, right? Murkans aren't really that gullible, right?

December 19, 2009 at 3:41 AM  
Anonymous Bee said...

Boehner is truly an imbecile. Personally, I'd take a 'Qaeda over MS-13 any day of the week. That bunch is truly deadly, and they've been spreading fast for years. They're nationwide now.

December 19, 2009 at 5:33 AM  
Blogger lisa said...

It's not fear it's just ridiculous.
Onam can see he closed Gitmo but all he did was create a Gitmo North.
Oh and did you know that gang leaders conduct business form prison that carries out to the streets?
The difference is they just kill each other.
Now can you stop liestening to all your liberal sources and just preten to care about this country?

December 19, 2009 at 12:23 PM  
Blogger Tom Harper said...

Randal: Sorry, no hallucinogens were involved. We did it all by ourselves.

Bee: If they come from an "enemy" country, they're "TERRORISTS!" If they're Americans, they're just "gangs." "Oh, it was just gang-related."

Lisa: "Oh and did you know that gang leaders conduct business form prison that carries out to the streets?" So we should send all gang members to Gitmo instead of keeping them in American prisons, right?

December 19, 2009 at 12:27 PM  
Anonymous Jolly Roger said...

lisa, I'm going to try to be kind here.

I defy you to come up with even one example of a gang leader conducting any kind of "business" from a supermax. If you weren't so wedded to your idiotic talking points, you'd find out that we keep people convicted of terrorism in these institutions, not medium security lockups. The 1993 WTC bombers, Tim McVeigh, the leader of the "Latin Kings"-these guys are incommunicado virtually all the time. You can't show where they've ever "conducted business" from their cells, because they haven't. Much like Capone never conducted any business from Alcatraz.

The folks near that prison in Illinois are rejoicing over the jobs the prison is going to bring; apparently THEY think you're a bunch of idiots too, and they have to live right next to the damn terrorists! You, and the rest of the brain-dead Rushpubliscums, cannot show even one example of the things you all claim will happen. Why not try to sound some way other than stupid for a change?

Now I don't want you to wet yourself, but.... did you know we actually kept Gestapo and SS members in US prisons? Really. And yet.... they never managed even ONE ACT of sabotage. Never killed even one American civilian, never blew anything up. I know how you wingerbots hate history, but look it up. It's true.

Oh, and Tom..... the alcoholic corrupt piece of shit's name is "Junket John" Boehner. That guy has added at least 2 degrees to the temperature of the Earth with all of his lobbyist-sponsored flying and the wasted electricity from powering up those tanning booths.

December 19, 2009 at 12:42 PM  
Blogger Holte Ender said...

Lisa speaks about prison life with such knowledge that can only mean experience. Respect. Which gang do you belong to? Bloods or Crips; probably the Aryans, couldn't be anything else.

December 19, 2009 at 1:37 PM  
Blogger Tom Harper said...

JR: Good response. Too bad it'll fall on deaf ears. Junket John is definitely one of the lowest of the lowlifes in Congress, and that's saying a lot.

Holte: Oh my God, I hadn't thought of that. I just checked her IP -- she's blogging from San Quentin :)

December 19, 2009 at 2:03 PM  
Anonymous Thomas said...

Don't you understand? These guys aren't just street thugs, they're supervillains and if we give them a secure facility in the middle of the American heartland they'll be able to turn it into a supervillain fortress where they'll manufacture a selective virus that only kills well-behaved white protestants.

We can't let something like that happen.

December 19, 2009 at 3:10 PM  
Blogger Lew Scannon said...

If there's one thing I've learned in these last few years, it's this: the more ridiculous and paranoid the scenario prsented by the right wing noise machine/echo chamber, the more frightened their ignorant and witless followers will become as a result.

December 19, 2009 at 4:15 PM  
Anonymous S.W. Anderson said...

I heard a brief exchange on CNN or CNBC the other day in which this was briefly "debated." The host asks a a Republican Rep., James Sensenbrenner, I think, what would be so dangerous about using that prison in Illinois for Gitmo detainees. Rep. says it's only a minimum-security prison. Dem/liberal guest responds it's a "supermax" prison. Republican Rep. hems, haws and sputters that, well, he was given talking points saying there's 200 minimum-security prisoners being held there, so that means it's only a minimum-security prison. Dem/liberal guest asserts it's a maximum-security prison, no matter who is being kept there.

Bottom line: the Republican Rep. came off as beyond ill-informed/misinformed. He went all the way to sounding stooopid.

Simple logic trick: If I put general stars on my shoulders, does that make me a general? For anyone dumb enough to go by GOP talking points, anything's possible. (You all needn't stand when I walk in a room, though. :) )

December 19, 2009 at 8:46 PM  
Anonymous S.W. Anderson said...

Randal asked, "That IS what happened, right? Murkans aren't really that gullible, right?"

To review, Murkans elected Ronald Reagan to two terms as president, following him with George H.W. "Out of the Loop" Bush." A few years on, Murkans put Bush's evil spawn in a position where the Supreme Court could choose him for president. Then, despite overwhelming evidence of George W. Bush's perverse genius for finding and doing every wrong thing, screwing up everything he touched, Murkans re-elected him.

And you actually have to ask if Murkans are that gullible?


December 19, 2009 at 8:54 PM  
Anonymous Carlos said...

Lisa, you need to stop huffing glue, or paint, or whatever the hell is scrambling your brain.

Do you at least see the hypocrisy of Boehner's threat?

December 20, 2009 at 2:55 AM  
Blogger Tom Harper said...

Thomas: Oops, you're on to that evil liberal scheme. Supervillains creating a virus that only kills the upstanding white pillars of each community. Damn, how'd you find out about it?

Lew: Yup, the rightwing demagogues have it down to a science. Push those FEAR buttons -- it doesn't matter how outlandish the claim is -- and millions of dunces will snap to attention and go "Uugghh!! Bad!!"

SW: That must have been priceless, seeing Sensenbrenner stumbling all over his talking points. That's the trouble with relying exclusively on soundbites and talking points. If an unanticipated question, or an actual fact, gets tossed in, the whole charade collapses.

Sometime during the 2008 election campaign, Chris Matthews was interviewing one of those rightwing demagogues. He kept spouting off the same soundbites about "Obama," "appeasing the enemy" and "just like Neville Chamberlain." Matthews finally interrupted him and asked him if he knew who Neville Chamberlain was and what it was, exactly, that he had done. The wingnut kept sputtering, kept repeating the same talking points, and finally admitted he didn't know what Neville Chamberlain had done.

Carlos: With a snoot full of glue, it's hard to notice hypocrisy or anything else.

December 20, 2009 at 10:32 AM  
Anonymous Bee said...

Lisa, dear, put your big girl panties on, please. Your lover-boy Bushie didn't do much about that, did he? He had 8 years, after all. I'm still not scared of (hand wringing) terrorists running the streets of america. Hell, woman, they ran the freaking country for the 8 years after Clinton. What's the matter, are you afraid that once these Gitmo-guys go to court, more of the nasty truth of what your side wrought might come out? Damn, talk about emotionally invested in a fraud. Amazing.

I doubt that much, if any, outside gang-running is being conducted from a Supermax, which, as Jolly just informed you, is where these detainees are going. They're not going to Andy's jailhouse in Mayberry. That's not to say that business isn't conducted - but it's pretty much contained INSIDE the prison.

Jolly, and the US brought German POW's over here to detain, too, if I remember correctly.

December 20, 2009 at 11:55 AM  
Anonymous S.W. Anderson said...

Tom, I remember that incident. It was priceless.

BTW, Matthews has said he's aware the RNC charges these guests up with talking points before appearances, and tells them to talk over and through others if necessary, and that he (Matthews) gets tired of it. He said he gets especially annoyed when a guest persists with trying to get in his/her talking points, even when those are not central to where the conversation is going.

December 20, 2009 at 3:12 PM  
Anonymous Jess said...

Boehner and the rest of those reps have taken people's fear and just amplified it, IMO. When I heard about this at first, I immediately thought of the jobs it will create, not just in the facility itself but the community at large.

Lisa, you know these guys won't even be allowed visitors right? Girl or guy, you HAVE got to start reading and watching more than the Foxness monster. This is a direct result of some people being all scared of the boogey man that Fox et al drum up to keep you all scared.

For those who have not seen Tweety get on Kevin James, here you go.


Lisa, we already have many many inmates in supermax facilities that cannot even have contact with the other inmates. What makes you think any of these guys will be able to even organize a bingo game in there?

December 20, 2009 at 3:39 PM  
Blogger Tom Harper said...

Bee: "Put your big girl panties on" -- LOL. Yes, these terrorists will be in Sheriff Andy Griffith's jail, sharing a cell with Otis the town drunk.

SW: That figures, these talking heads are all charged up with talking points before they go on the air. That method of Chris Matthews ought to be used more often -- ask these TV guests questions, make them explain what they're talking about, get them off-message. In addition to the entertainment value, it might enlighten a few TV viewers.

Jess: Thanks for the link. Yup, that was it. Great to see it again; I'm glad it's still out there on the intertubes.

December 20, 2009 at 4:19 PM  
Blogger Snave said...

I don't know if Boner actually hates the troops... hates America? I can certainly believe that.

Obviously, what Boehner LIKES about the troops is he can use them as a political tool. Lots of righties like this about the troops. But our men and women in military deserve more than to be used as a political wedge to be driven, more than the psychiatric care they get, and better treatment once they are veterans.

December 20, 2009 at 4:26 PM  
Blogger Ricardo said...

This is a tricky situation. It's basically one of those "Not in my backyard!" types of things. There is also fear of these guys recruiting other prisoners to their style of thinking and then escape. I really hate the fear mongering. It seems like a pretty tight complex and the cost of running it half empty is a waste to me.

You know the recruiting process for these terrorist on their native soil is not much different then the stuff that goes on in our inner cities. Young men with no hope or future being promised great things if they gunsling. The difference with terrorists is that they go international instead of local but both gangs and terrorists have amassed quite a body count.

I do find it rather appalling that Boemer is using this as a reason not to support our troops. Our troops should not be endangered over this. Dare I say, it's very un-American.

December 21, 2009 at 5:51 PM  
Blogger kimc said...

...supervillain fortress where they'll manufacture a selective virus that only kills well-behaved white protestants.

Somehow, this looked to me like The Rapture. It takes away only well-behaved white protestants. (Which might leave the rest of us, at long last, with Peace on Earth....)

December 22, 2009 at 11:46 AM  

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