Advice to Democrats from Michael Moore and Bill Maher
Michael Moore said:
“Democrats are in for an ass-whipping of biblical proportions in November if they don't get off the dime and do the job they were sent there to do. Don't they see that?
“When the Republicans come into town, they get in the hummer, and they drive down Pennsylvania Avenue and mow down anybody in sight. They walk into Congress with both guns blazing, and they say 'we were sent here to do a job,' and then they do the job.
“Democrats come in, and go, 'Oh, hi, hi. I guess we don't need universal health care for everybody. We can, we can, no we can compromise. It's okay.' They used to at least sing 'Kumbaya.' Now they go in like frightened animals. I don't understand it.
“Americans don't really see themselves as Democrats or Republicans. They want somebody in there who believes in something, who's going to go for it.”
In case that wasn’t blunt enough, Bill Maher reprimanded Obama with:
“I think the biggest mistake that he has made in his first year was to put bipartisanship ahead of fixing the country.”
Obama should have “come in with all the energy from the election and saying, you know what, we're in a crisis mode, I won this election by a sizable mandate — here's what we're going to do; if you don't like it, Republicans, you can suck on it.”
If only…
But it’s never too late. Or is it???
This last quote isn’t relevant to this particular subject, but last summer Bill Maher said: “We don't have a left and a right party anymore because Democrats have moved to the right, and the right has moved into a mental hospital.”
Labels: Bill Maher, Michael Moore
posted by Tom Harper @ 12:28 PM
19 Comments:
Good article in the Daily Beast today about how Obama is getting stronger now that he's actively taking on the GOP. I have it posted on my blog...
I see today that Nancy has said Stupak won't be an issue on HCR. PO also wants the student loan situation fixed and that looks like it will be fixed this year too. I did not realize how much money private companies get for screwing students. Nancy is getting things done in the house, now if only onlY fearless Reid would do the same.
As spineless as the Democratic Party is in Congress right now, their supporters are just as spineless. Fear of Republican control of Congress (which IS a scary thought) will keep them from supporting and voting for a real progressive party.
The President has indeed seemed to be looking for his voice lately. Maybe he'll find it; the data is backing him up.
J: That was a good article. I hope it's true.
Jess: I hope Pelosi is right. She's definitely a stronger leader than Reid.
Lew: That's true, the Democrats are paralyzed by fear of Republicans. They don't seem to realize that continuing to cower and bend over is the biggest turnoff to voters.
JR: He needs to find that voice ASAP.
"Americans don't really see themselves as Democrats or Republicans. They want somebody in there who believes in something, who's going to go for it.”
Bingo! I've said the same thing a bunch of times, using slightly different words. Moore's whole statement hits the nail on the head.
Some make the mistake of writing off Moore as some kind of prankster, because of his outrageous, comedic approach to political commentary. In reality, he's bright, thoughtful and very well informed. He'd make a good senator.
Now, I'm going to put in a word for Harry Reid. Nancy Pelosi has done a bang-up job in the House, no question. She'd make a hell of a president, IMO. But keep in mind, she's got a comparatively large majority to work with.
Reid has to contend with the Senate's patented rulebook from hell and more than a few Democrats compromised by corporate money. On top of that, I'm convinced the White House told Reid and Pelosi at the outset of Obama's presidency that they should go out of their way to seek bipartisanship. I think Reid complied, and like Obama himself ended up looking weak and wishy-washy. I hope they've both had enough of that nonsense.
Ah yes, the words of Bill Maher and Michael Moore.
Glorious words and wonderful suggestions!
Please write them down, etch them in stone, and permanently insert in your mental hard-drives.
It's definitely make or break time, my worry is, can Pelosi get 216 votes in the House? she got 220 last time, now it's for real and those Blue Dogs are quivering and worried about their jobs in November. It would be a heartbreaker if Democrats bring the bill down.
You're all stupid. Obama and the Dums are playing 72-dimensional chess, and all these niceties, though painful now, will only help us in the long run when in 2753, two centuries after the Global Thermonuclear War, Oog and Grok will put aside their differences and split the day's hunt equally.
SW: You're right, Michael Moore is extremely bright and knowledgeable, behind that clownish exterior. Good point about Reid; he's in a much tougher position than Pelosi. I just hope Obama/Pelosi/Reid can spine up now and do what they've gotta do.
Joaquin: Just to show that I'm not censoring opinions here, I printed your comment. Nice blog you've got there.
Holte: That would be funny (not ha ha) if the House drops the ball, after all the withering criticism the Senate has been getting.
Randal: 2753 you say? OK, something to look forward to.
Tom, it never crossed my mind that you would censor any comments unless they were totally rude or laced with profanity.
Perhaps Maher and Moore could answer the question I've been asking for years:
Can anybody tell me how a party made up of different races, ethnic groups, religions and regions are supposed to think as one as the prominently white, male, christian, conservative, republican party?
Erik
Eh Erik, to assume that the republican party is only made up of prominently white, male, Christians is sophomoric.
Erik: I'm glad the Democrats don't march in lockstep like Republicans do. But sometimes there's a need for them to pull together, and this health care reform bill is one of those times.
Joaquin: Yes, I'm sure Rush Limbaugh has lots of minorities and non-Christians among his fans. And Limbaugh IS the Republican Party.
Erik, here is one word answer girl to answer the question you have posed. Because. Hope this helps :)
Joaquin
Look at the stats, look at the conventions where they have to move the few black republicans up to the front seats during the prime time speeches in order to look more diverse. Look at the Congress, look at their leadership (other then Steele)
California just got it's first openly gay legislator. Not because he was elected, but because he was busted for a DUI coming from a Gay bar and decided to come out of the closet.
The Numbers speak for themselves
Erik
Um, Erik, not to be disagreeable here but...:) We got our first REPUBLICAN gay legislator only because he had to be dragged out of the closet kicking and screaming. We have Jon Perez(sp) from LA area. Sheila Kuehl was a lesbian if I remember correctly and I am pretty sure Mark Leno is gay too, he serves in the state senate. He is the one that it was reported he told someone, to kiss his gay ass a couple months back about something or another.
Sorry Lisa if I didn't explain that well enough in my hurry to show that Republican gay's in California aren't elected, they're outed!
Add Carole Migden as well as a former Lesbian. Her place was taken by Mark Leno who is Gay .
Erik
Yes, both Leno and Kuehl are gay. I don't know about Perez.
Sheila Kuehl is one of my heroes.
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