Keystone Oil Pipeline — IXNAY!!!
And let’s drive a stake through its heart once and for all.
President Obama has REJECTED the Keystone Pipeline project.
YAY!!!
Republicans tried to back Obama into a corner. They thought they had maneuvered him into one of those awkward “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” positions. It was supposed to be a paralyzing dilemma: veto the project and be portrayed as “job-killing” or approve the project and alienate environmentalists.
Obama had until sometime in February to approve or disapprove the Keystone project. This was an amendment that Republicans attached to the two-month payroll tax cut extension. Republicans thought he’d spend the entire two months squirming, paralyzed with indecision. Instead, he quickly and decisively VETOED it.
Now THIS is the exact kind of in-your-face decisiveness we’ve been waiting for. You go Mr. President.
A few months ago, Chris Christie was in this exact same scenario. This was when he was still the Great Republican Hope. There was a bill on his desk, which supposedly put him in that same rock/hard-place position. If he signed the bill he’d alienate this group; if he vetoed it he’d alienate that group. What would he do? Chris Christie called a press conference, walked up to the podium, took out a pen and, without a second’s hesitation, vetoed the bill.
Everyone ooh-ed and ahh-ed over Christie’s bold decisiveness and “what’re you gonna do about it” manner. And now President Obama is taking the same approach.
YES!!!
And the Republican hissy-fit has already started. Someone from the National Republican Congressional Committee tweeted:
“U just turned ur back on 20k american workers & energy security what r u gonna do next?”
And that brings us to another rightwing talking point that’s been parroted endlessly by oil industry prostitutes and their gullible listeners: The number of jobs that would have been created by the Keystone Pipeline is 6,000. NOT 20,000. Yes, 6,000 jobs is a lot of jobs. Repairing and maintaining the infrastructure would create a lot more jobs than that.
Again, that number is 6,000. NOT 20,000. OK!?!?!?
Labels: Keystone oil pipeline, Obama rejects Keystone pipeline
posted by Tom Harper @ 2:33 PM
19 Comments:
I read somewhere that there might be as many as 13,000 jobs involved in the building of this thing. But once it's built, most of the jobs would go away. Far better to put a whole lot more people to work rebuilding the nation's infrastructure. Besides, that would benefit a whole lot more Americans than building a pipeline across our country so that another country can get its oil to a port for the purpose of exporting it out of North America.
Nonetheless, the right wing is still going to paint Obama as a "job killer" over this, even when some of his programs turned down by the right would have created far more jobs than the pipeline ever could.
The left needs to have some good strategies and counter-arguments to offer up and fight back with, because we're going to hear about the Keystone Pipeline every day from now until November.
Even with that, I'm glad he had the cojones to show the GOP who's boss. It isn't them, it's still the Democrats right now. The Republicans will learn nothing from this, because they are not rational... but it's great to see Obama stand up to them in a way that makes them look rather silly.
I wonder why nobody ever presents the "deferral" rule as a job killer?
I always wondered why a pipeline all the way to Texas when it would be cheaper and safer just to build a refinery across the border? Then one guy said on the news today that's because most of that oil is marked for exportation, and the tankers can come right up to the Gulf Coast and fill up! Alaska all over again!
Erik
Like Snave
Hmmmmm when it was money for jobs on rebuilding everybody's roads, bridges, Dams Republicans screams deficit and turned it down, but they want this pipeline and don't care whose land they run over in order to get it. Nor do they even want to wait for proper environmental reports
Erik
What?
What could POSSIBLY go wrong?
I bet China is happy,now Canada can sell that unregulated polluter all the oil it needs.
Besides we can't have Canada competing for our business with Soros' refinery in Brazil.
This is like Deaf,Dumb and Blind Loyalty.
Snave: The State Dept. was estimating 6,000 jobs. I assume they're a lot more objective than the oil company shills. I also read that some of the job estimates are using the job-year as the measuring unit: one job lasting for one year. Using this yardstick, a job that lasts 2 years is counted as 2 jobs. That's just one of their fuzzy math tricks; I'm sure that have a lot more.
JR: Sorry, I don't what the deferral rule is. I Googled it and several different definitions came up.
Erik: I've heard the same thing, that most or all of this tar sands oil is for export only. But that fact never seems to register with the "drill here drill now" morons.
Anonymous: Nah, nothing could possibly go wrong. And the Titanic is unsinkable.
Lisa: Very good copy-and-paste job of the standard rightwing meme.
I've seen jobs estimates for building the pipeline as low as under 1,000. The most realistic, IMO, was 2,000 to 3,000 job, a drop in the bucket either way.
I'm glad Obama said no and hope he gets the credit Christie got, although I'm doubtful. But don't think it's all over. The door is wide open for the route to be altered and the State Department to clear it at a later date. (Why this is up to State and not Interior, I don't know.)
Canada's P.M. has ordered a feasibility study of building a pipeline west to B.C. ports. The pipeline could end up going that way, which would be OK with me.
I was thinking Lisa has Soros on the brain but then I realize......
Haw!
I was thinking Lisa has Soros on the brain but then I realize......
that's the problem,you don't realize.
But when you don't realize that you don't realize... that's worse.
F---YOU John King!!!
10 points each to Newt,Santorum,Romney and Paul for giving to the stupid leftwing Obama mania media assholes!!
Besides what ever happened to all those offshore Oil leases the Oil Companies own, and still don't use?
And the Republicans keep pushing for more Oil Leases, and Obama says "Use the ones you have already and then we'll talk"
Erik
SW: You're right, this whole Keystone issue isn't over. The Republicans will use this as a campaign issue, but I don't think that'll make any difference. The people who wanted the Keystone project weren't going to vote for Obama anyway.
And yes, the project could rear its head in British Columbia. I don't like that idea either.
Lisa: John King -- oh, you mean because he asked Gingrich about his history of cheating on his wives. Yes, that subject should be completely off limits, even though Gingrich masterminded Bill Clinton's impeachment on the exact same grounds.
Erik: That was in the news a lot several years ago; I think it was a campaign issue in 2008. It's kind of fallen out of the public awareness, but I'm sure the oil industry is still doing this. They want to have as many leases as they possibly can, in case they decide to drill at a later date.
Dammit Lisa, you dumb broad, get back in the kitchen! MEN are talking here!
As for "deferral," Tom, it was the genius Chimpy rule rammed through by "reconciliation" that allows American corporations to pay no tax on any money made and kept overseas. Deferral is pretty much the reason R&D left here to join everything else.
JR: Thanks for the info.
Boehner must be bent about this, since he went and did some investing to the tune of possibly 300k in companies that would stand to profit from the pipeline going forward. Teehee, mah schaden is doing its own freuden today.
Once again Lisa does not understand the Kocksuckers have more to gain than anyone else in this going forward with nearly all of their money tied up in big oil. GoOper fanbots certainly don't get into rational thinking do they?
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Tom there were other allegations against Clinton. I don't recall the media digging up his past baggage during any debates and particularly Obama's locked suitcases .
So to be redundant if I may, F--- You John King
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