Still More Rightwing Talking Points
It’s not enough to keep fending off “Death Panels!” and “People Dying in the Emergency Room!” As soon as the media has been saturated with the Far Right’s current soundbites, new ones come oozing up. And each new Big Lie is even more absurd than the last.
There were two anti-health-reform letters to the editor in our local paper last week. They both used the same bizarre “reasoning,” which I haven’t seen before. We’ll see if this becomes a new talking point that gets recited to death.
Basically, there’s only X amount of “health care” out there — a fixed amount, like so many apples in a barrel, or so much water in a reservoir. Now, if millions of uninsured people suddenly get access to health care, there’ll be less of it for everybody. After all, if a bunch of new people come sauntering up to a huge table loaded with food, there’s less food for each person.
Personally, this seems so oversimplified, it’s like explaining advanced calculus in terms of “if Billy has three apples, and Andrea brings him two more apples…” Not only is this “logic” simple-minded beyond words — if there actually is any truth to it, it shows an incredibly cutthroat mentality. “If millions of people are suddenly able to have those life-saving medical procedures they need, I might have to pay more for my Botox injections and my next tummy tuck.”
And the “slippery slope” arguments keep getting more hilarious all the time. It’s so passé to compare ObamaCare to Socialism, Communism, Russia, Nazi Germany. That’s been done to death already. Let’s really dig deep. Deeper. Let’s compare Obama’s evil agenda to — Iran! The Hostage Crisis! The Axis of Evil! NOOO!!!!!
South Carolina’s Favorite Son-of-a-Bitch strikes again. Senator Jim DeMint actually said:
“And we’ve seen a lot of countries over the years collapse when they’ve gone down the road that we’re going down. Probably the most heart-wrenching experiences I’ve had over the last several days is when naturalized American citizens who have immigrated here from Germany, Iran and other countries, they come up to me and they say why are we doing what so many have fled from? Why don’t Americans see what we’re doing? And I’ve realized that these people who’ve lived under socialist type economies, and totalitarianism, they know where we’re headed if we don’t turn things around.”
Remember, this is the same shitwipe that bragged about “breaking” Obama by defeating health care reform. Can’t wait to hear what the Bastard out of Carolina will be spewing out next.
Labels: Bastard out of Carolina, Jim DeMint
posted by Tom Harper @ 5:34 PM
18 Comments:
Trying to insert logic into any debate with a right winger is kind of like trying to insert a battery into a wind-up toy. It doesn't fit, there's no room for it, and even if you were successfully able to do it, it still wouldn't work. Now I understand why they have been wanting to cut funding for education all these years-you'd have to be pretty freaking stupid to believe anything that comes from the right.
Lew: LOL -- great analogy. And I wholeheartedly agree about why they've cut funding for education. There was method in their madness. Now they have millions of unthinking drones who swallow everything they're told.
LOL at Lew. He's right. What is scary is how good the right wing are at brainwashing the sheep.
That quote is one big pile of shit. This just keeps getting stupider and I know we haven't hit bottom yet.
Urgent and emergency care probably won't increase much if health care reform actually goes through and millions more have health insurance. It might even be a bit easier to get in and out.
People seeking more-routine doctor visits could encounter some added delays. I doubt the difference would be intolerable or go on indefinitely.
I say that because many, perhaps most, of the people without insurance get medical care now, one way or another. It's not as if they're all going without, and the day after the reforms kick in they'll all be on the phone making appointments.
So yes, this latest meme is as specious as all the rest from the health insurance industry, its surrogates and its inside guys in Congress.
Isn't DeMint a sweetheart, always running for re-election.
IF all the folks who are uninsured are able to get coverage, it would take a lot pressure off Emergency Rooms, because they are using the ER as a doctors office.
I had the misfortune to have to take a person the the local ER recently, it was a Sunday afternoon and a genuine emergency. The waiting room was full of people who were just plain sick, not injured, they should have seen a doctor days before their ER visit. It was a real eye-opener.
The Republicans have played a very important part in the dumbing down of the American people. The movie "Idiocracy" seems to represent the ultimate outcome of such an approach. It is well worth a look if you haven't seen it.
BTW, Tom, I hope you recognized my sarcasm on my post. You don't have to print this.
Can’t wait to hear what the Bastard out of Carolina will be spewing out next.
He'll encourage states to make '10th Amendment' arguments in support of defying the federal government on health-care reform.
y'know, people used to call me a conspiracy theory nut when I would say "Why do you think it is that every time a republican gets into office, the first thing they do is try to cut education funding??"
All of a sudden, I'm not looking so crazy, eh? hahahahahahahaha....
Enemy: The Right is definitely beating us on this issue. It seems to be totally irrelevant that they got trounced in the last election. And you're right, we haven't hit bottom yet.
SW: Good point. More people will be getting their medical care through doctor's appointments instead of trips to the ER. And hopefully the waiting time in the ER won't be as long.
Holte: Yup, the ER might go back to actually being used for emergencies, rather than the standard procedure for people without insurance.
Snave: The Right sure knew what they were doing when they cut funding for education, and removed most liberal arts and civics and critical thinking from the curriculum.
Kvatch: Ah yes, the Tenth Amendment; I've been seeing that one too. ObamaCare is unconstitutional.
Bee: Nope, not crazy. The less they spend on education, the more non-thinking bots they'll have at their disposal. Yell out a soundbite, and millions of drones will snap to attention, ready to hit the streets.
The debate has yet to be handled with any logic. This topic has been handled with such stupidity that I wish to flee the country.
What are your thoughts on some of the Republican's in congress passively endorsing some of these people bringing assault rifles to town hall meetings? Likely guys in militia and white supremacist groups. Is this their idea of defending the country?
Imagine the uproar these guys would have if the black panthers showed up with their M-16s.
so not only has the GOP made America dumber, now they want them violent.
I'd like to comment further, but I've got an appointment with the death panel in five minutes.
The 'dumbing down of America' is right, its the only way GOP can get anybody to vote for them. They have always tried to rewrite history in their favor, but now they trying to change the present, the audacity of those, those, (what did Tom say) ah asswipes.
Heaven forbid we'd ever want to be one of those countries like Germany with a high per-capita income, broad social safety net and world class standard of living.
That would suck.
Ricardo: Dumb and violent, that's the GOP vision for America. Republican politicians can't be allowed to keep getting away with cozying up to these racist and militia types, and then simultaneously saying "oh, I have nothing to do with them." It's one or the other. Either they publicly denounce them, or they've got an albatross around their necks.
Randal: We're sorry, Hussein X has decreed that you are no longer a useful member of society.
Holte: Good point. They've gone from rewriting history to trying to rewrite and redefine the present. Hopefully the public won't be dumb enough for this to work.
Thomas: Heaven forbid. Prosperity, high standard of living, a broad safety net -- sounds like comminism to me.
Thomas, back when the top marginal tax rate on millionaires was 91 percent, industrial districts dotted the landscape, more than 40 percent of workers were unionized, New Deal regulations kept Wall Street in check, and Democrats had mostly controlled Congress and completely controlled the White House for three decades, what you describe is what Americans had.
Gosh, where did we go wrong?
SW: That sounds like a socialist police state you're describing. I'm glad America has finally become the capitalist paradise she was meant to be :)
NOTE: I'll be away for the next day and a half and won't have any computer access. If your comment doesn't get printed during that time, it's only because I'm not here to publish it.
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